Bug#274677: dpkg-gencontrol broken on architectures with a - in their name

2005-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
tags 274677 + wontfix
thanks

In fact, I don't even have the intention of changing this tag against
the will of the maintainer, but I hope the maintainer will be kind
enough to explain how the official meaning of wontfix is appropriate
for this bug (I fail to see it).

Thanks.


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Bug#274677: dpkg-gencontrol broken on architectures with a - in their name

2005-01-18 Thread Manuel Menal
Hello,
 I think it'd be best for everyone, especially Debian, if you guys 
calmed down
about this issue. Scott, surely you've got better reasons for tagging 
this as
'wontfix' than personal problems with the reporter? Because that sure 
isn't a
reason for a wontfix.

 This bug is definitely easy to fix and annoying. It is needed to fix 
quite a
few other bugs, like #274704 (and not having Apache in an architecture 
is a big
problem, IMHO). Patch is included. Perhaps we could get rid of it 
quickly, and
not fight about severity ? Scott, could you tell us if this patch is 
going to be
applied, and when (next upload, perhaps ?) ? Marc, could you just calm 
down and
not change the severity as long as things go smoothly ?

 Thanks.
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Bug#274677: dpkg-gencontrol broken on architectures with a - in their name

2005-01-18 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-01-18 at 18:19 +0100, Manuel Menal wrote:

 Scott, could you tell us if this patch is going to be applied,
 
Yes, either this or a very similar patch will be applied.

 and when (next upload, perhaps ?)
 
In the 1.13 series, sometime over the next year.

Scott
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Bug#274677: dpkg-gencontrol broken on architectures with a - in their name

2005-01-18 Thread Duck
Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In particular, the Maintainer knows all the bugs he's set at the
 important severity are either hard to fix or would change things in
 such a significant way that would break a lot of things right now.

 So the Maintainer actually never bothers to read any bugs in the
 important block, and skips past it.

 If this bug were in that block, it would be a long time before it got
 fixed.


 On the other hand, the Maintainer is actively going through the normal
 and minor bugs and mentally filing them in his head to be worked on over
 the next year or so.  So if this bug is in that block, it's got a high
 chance of being fixed.

This is your way to handle bug, not mine. I really think severity
should reflect impact on users as described in the policy, and not be
used as a complementary maintainer parameter, as the priority one in
bugzilla. Perhaps something is missing here.
But that is not the real problem.

I bumped the severity for two reasons :
 1) this bug is causing many FTBFS, so is really nasty
 2) i should have used severity important when i first filed the
bugreport, but made a mistake
This was not an intent to artificially bump the severity to get more
attention, even if it was easy to misunderstand.


 The only reason it hasn't been applied to that branch yet is because I
 haven't got to it yet.  There's ~400 bugs in that list, this one isn't
 any more important than a lot of those!

I can perfectly understand this and i agree this bug is no more
important than many other.

The only reason why i was rude is because of this short reply :
quote
Debian GNU/Hurd is not a released architecture.
/quote
I feel this reply like a lack of respect for an architecture you
dislike while it has been officially accepted as Debian devel-arch,
integrated in Debian repository, BTS, and other tools and webpages.
Many maintainers only listen to their own taste and we have to fight
hard to make them realize they should be working for users instead of
only their own desires.

I don't know you personnally, so with this kind of reply, this was my
understanding. Many maintainers just give such words and then neglect
the bug, how could i know the bug is not going to be sent to trashcan ?


 I have a right to work without that intimidation, therefore I declined
 to fix the bug or enter any further discourse about it.

As i have a right to work without having my work being misconsidered
because it is not the choice everyone selected.

But in my case i cannot decline anything, i can only cry.


 Yes, either this or a very similar patch will be applied.

Thanks.


 In the 1.13 series, sometime over the next year.

Then we'll have to maintain an unofficial flavor of this pkg, what i
wanted to avoid because is it would be quite a burden, but i see no
alternate solution.


Thanks for your help.

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Bug#274677: dpkg-gencontrol broken on architectures with a - in their name

2005-01-17 Thread Duck

Coin,

Please consider this bug is _really_ annoying because it is a major
blocking problem for Debian GNU/Hurd packaging, thus the severity bump.

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Bug#274677: dpkg-gencontrol broken on architectures with a - in their name

2005-01-17 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2005-01-17 at 13:39 +0100, Marc Dequnes wrote:

 Coin,
 
Who?

 Please consider this bug is _really_ annoying because it is a major
 blocking problem for Debian GNU/Hurd packaging, thus the severity bump.
 
Debian GNU/Hurd is not a released architecture.

Scott
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