Bug#292339: mssstest: License does not permit modification, but source is modified

2005-01-26 Thread Göran Weinholt
Package: mssstest
Version: 2.0-1
Severity: serious

This package's license does not permit modification, but
mssstest-2.0/makefile and mssstest-2.0/roxburgh.cpp have been modified
anyway. I suggest you either revert the modifications or obtain the
required permission.

Quoting debian/copyright:

---
This software is downloaded at the user's risk.  Anyone may copy it but
no one may sell it.

We make no representation or warranties with respect to the MSSStest
software and specifically disclaim any implied warranties of
merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose.  We reserve the
right to revise the MSSStest software and to make changes therein from
time to time without obligation to notify any person or organisation of
such revision or changes.  While we make every effort to ensure the
reliability of the MSSStest software we may not be held responsible for
errors, omissions or other inaccuracies or any consequences thereof.

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED
WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN
NO EVENT SHALL SHAUN SEAMAN OR RICHARD ROXBURGH OR THEIR EMPLOYERS BE
LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF
SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR
BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY,
WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR
OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF
ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.
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Regards,

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Göran Weinholt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#292339: mssstest: License does not permit modification, but source is modified

2005-01-26 Thread Göran Weinholt
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 03:41:55PM +0100, Steffen Moeller wrote:
 Hello Göran,
 
 where does the license say that I am not allowed to do modifications?

The default of copyright law doesn't allow you to do very much with
the software. So to distribute modified versions of the software, you
need a license that allows that. mssstest's license does not say that
it is allowed, so therefore it is not allowed.

I just noticed a more severe problem with this license: it doesn't
allow distribution of binaries. You can work around that by changing
the package so that the user builds the binary package themselves,
like the qmail-src package.

 The change to roxburgh.cpp refers to the line that claims Borland to have
 compiled the package that I commented out.

 The changes to the Makefile are of similar $(DESTDIR)-like severity.

 Upstream is happy with the Debian package. All that I have done was to
 adapt the source for that process. I have not modified the source in
 order to change the functionality. And from what I read the license is
 not in the way even of doing that.

Then I'm sure you can ask upstream for permission to distribute the
modified source and the resulting binaries.

 I do not see any bug.

Btw, I don't think your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
made it to the BTS.

Regards,

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Göran Weinholt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian developer, sysadmin, netadmin


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Bug#292339: mssstest: License does not permit modification, but source is modified

2005-01-26 Thread Steffen Moeller
Hello again,

I sent upstream an email asking for the permission. To me this is all a
bit strange, distracting myself and upstream from the real work we need
to do; however the lawsuit between SCO and IBM is strange, too, so I
should feel thankful for your help.

Sorry for the premature -wontfix-thingy. This was rude. I felt stressed.

Steffen


On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 05:18:13PM +0100, G?ran Weinholt wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 03:41:55PM +0100, Steffen Moeller wrote:
  Hello G?ran,
  
  where does the license say that I am not allowed to do modifications?
 
 The default of copyright law doesn't allow you to do very much with
 the software. So to distribute modified versions of the software, you
 need a license that allows that. mssstest's license does not say that
 it is allowed, so therefore it is not allowed.
 
 I just noticed a more severe problem with this license: it doesn't
 allow distribution of binaries. You can work around that by changing
 the package so that the user builds the binary package themselves,
 like the qmail-src package.
 
  The change to roxburgh.cpp refers to the line that claims Borland to have
  compiled the package that I commented out.
 
  The changes to the Makefile are of similar $(DESTDIR)-like severity.
 
  Upstream is happy with the Debian package. All that I have done was to
  adapt the source for that process. I have not modified the source in
  order to change the functionality. And from what I read the license is
  not in the way even of doing that.
 
 Then I'm sure you can ask upstream for permission to distribute the
 modified source and the resulting binaries.
 
  I do not see any bug.
 
 Btw, I don't think your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 made it to the BTS.
 
 Regards,
 
 -- 
 G?ran Weinholt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Debian developer, sysadmin, netadmin




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