Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2006-04-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

www.debian.org/devel still only mentions debian-edu:

the page says:
---schnipp---
A number of these projects aim to create Custom Debian Distributions for a 
particular group of users while working fully within the Debian system. These 
include: 

*Debian Jr. Project
*Debian-Med Project
*Debian-Edu Project
*Debian Desktop Project
*Debian-Lex Project
*Debian Non-Profit Project
*Debian Accessibility Project
*Debian GIS Project
*Agnula DeMuDi
---schnapp---

I would like to get consensus on this one now and close this bug soon. 

My proposal still is to s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu\/Skolelinux Project/ - 
do you agree or have better proposals ? Or do you think that page should 
remain as it is ?


regards,
Holger


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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2006-04-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Holger Levsen]
 My proposal still is to s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu\/Skolelinux
 Project/ - do you agree or have better proposals ? Or do you think
 that page should remain as it is ?

I believe we should mention both the projects names.

The Skolelinux project has been merged with the Debian Edu project a
few years ago, and the project groups in each country are free to use
either one (or both) of the names.


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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

btw, I've talked (aka irced) with Andreas today about the issue...

Again thinking about the issue afterwards, I came to the conclusion, it should 
be mentioned more clearly and more prominently on www.skolelinux.(org|no|de), 
that bSkolelinux is a CDD created by the debian-edu project/b.


Searching for debian-edu on www.skolelinux.org gives 15 hits, one being 
http://www.skolelinux.org/portal/about/what where you can read skolelinux 
(aka debian-edu) :-(

www.skolelinux.de doesnt really mention debian-edu, only on 
http://www.skolelinux.de/sponsoren.html: skolelinux/debian-edu thanks its 
sponsors.


regards,
Holger


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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

info for people reading this through the BTS: there has been some discussion 
about the question is debian-edu==skolelinux ? on the debian-edu 
mailinglist, see 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2005/05/threads.html#00208


On Friday 20 May 2005 20:33, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
  s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu\/Skolelinux Project/

 No, actually we want to go under the name of debian-edu in debian
 circles. skolelinux is too norwegian (aka local) and we want to
 be known under the debian name if possible.

 that said, some countries have decided to call debian-edu
 skolelinux anyway since they like it better. they are free to
 do that.

Ok, after Cobaco's suggestion I've added the following sentence to 
http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianEdu

SkoleLinux is the name of a CustomDebianDistribution which is produced by the 
debian-edu project. (Skole is norwegian and means school.)

I would be happy if somebody could also provide a link to download skolelinux 
there.


  And, after all ( afaik), the projects name just isn't Debian-Edu
  anymore.

 actually it is the other way around: it should be more debian-edu
 and less skolelinux, internationally.

Ok, but I still think the word Skolelinux should be mentioned on 
http://www.debian.org/devel/ - what do you think of 

s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu Project, producing Skolelinux, a CDD for 
schools/

?

And I would also suggest to mention this (debian-edu is the project, 
skolelinux a cdd produced by it) clearly on the skolelinux media and 
installation process. (I don't know the situation so if it's allready there, 
fine...)


regards,
Holger


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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-23 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:06:49PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
  No, actually we want to go under the name of debian-edu in debian
  circles. skolelinux is too norwegian (aka local) and we want to
  be known under the debian name if possible.
 
  that said, some countries have decided to call debian-edu
  skolelinux anyway since they like it better. they are free to
  do that.
 
 Ok, after Cobaco's suggestion I've added the following sentence to 
 http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianEdu
 
 SkoleLinux is the name of a CustomDebianDistribution which is produced by the 
 debian-edu project. (Skole is norwegian and means school.)

hallo? just because Cobaco likes to tell this to people it is not
official pollicy. (c: I gave you what is the official position.
Do you want to vote on it?



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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-23 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Monday 23 May 2005 14:03, you wrote:
 hallo? just because Cobaco likes to tell this to people it is not
 official pollicy. (c: I gave you what is the official position.

hallihallo Andreas ;-)

Just because you sad something how should I tell this is an official 
statement ? You didnt tell that it was an offical statement.

 Do you want to vote on it?

no.

I want offical statements then ;-)

Feel free to/Please update wiki.debian.ent/?DebianEdu to reflect the official 
positions. Also please provide links to offical download images, I cannot 
find any links to a skolelinux-cds there.

The download-link on www.skolelinux.de points to 
ftp://developer.skolelinux.no/skolelinux-cd/ where I can still find very old 
test-images from 2003 (please move them away) and where I still cannot find 
the latest woody-based skolelinux-release. (The one which is said to be 
official, even though the name doesnt sound like it is.)

(btw, http://www.skolelinux.org/de/get_started/download#official-cds looks 
good now.)


Conclusion: The debian-edu-project (in somes places also known as Skolelinux) 
doesnt want the name skolelinux to be mentioned on www.debian.org/devel - 
only Debian-Edu. If this is true, please close this bug.


regards,
Holger


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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On 23-05-2005 14:03, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
 On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 01:06:49PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 
No, actually we want to go under the name of debian-edu in debian
circles. skolelinux is too norwegian (aka local) and we want to
be known under the debian name if possible.

that said, some countries have decided to call debian-edu
skolelinux anyway since they like it better. they are free to
do that.

Ok, after Cobaco's suggestion I've added the following sentence to 
http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianEdu

SkoleLinux is the name of a CustomDebianDistribution which is produced by the 
debian-edu project. (Skole is norwegian and means school.)
 
 
 hallo? just because Cobaco likes to tell this to people it is not
 official pollicy. (c: I gave you what is the official position.
 Do you want to vote on it?

Hallo? yourself.

Could you please be more explicit when you have the I am more official
than others in this gjrokrati!-hat on, Andreas!

Yes, I am aware that a vote has been made in norway about names of their
organisation(s), but I am unsure if cobaco and Holger knows about that
voting outside cyberspace and its exact relevance here.


Regards,

 - Jonas

The obnoxious one...

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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Package: www.debian.org
severity: wishlist

debian-edu and Skolelinux _afaik_ are names which have equal rights, but 
http://www.debian.org/devel/ only mentions the Debian-Edu Project. This is 
confusing and leads to less valuable search results.

I've someone says go I can commit the change.

I've allready changed the linked page wiki.debian.net/DebianEdu to reflect 
this (and created wiki.debian.net/SkoleLinux).


regards,
Holger

btw, anybody knows how to set X-Debbugs-Cc: with kmail ?


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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
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Holger Levsen wrote:
 Package: www.debian.org
 severity: wishlist
 
 debian-edu and Skolelinux _afaik_ are names which have equal rights, but 
 http://www.debian.org/devel/ only mentions the Debian-Edu Project. This is 
 confusing and leads to less valuable search results.
 
 I've someone says go I can commit the change.

I understand your concern, but I think this entry shouldn't stand out
over the others. How would your patch look like?

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-20 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Luk,

On Friday 20 May 2005 16:06, Luk Claes wrote:
 I understand your concern, but I think this entry shouldn't stand out
 over the others. How would your patch look like?

s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu\/Skolelinux Project/

:-)

I don't think that this patch would cause the entry to stand out over the 
others. Do you ? IMO it would just become a little bit longer...

And, after all ( afaik), the projects name just isn't Debian-Edu anymore.


regards,
Holger


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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-20 Thread Luk Claes
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Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Luk,

Hi Holger

 On Friday 20 May 2005 16:06, Luk Claes wrote:
 
I understand your concern, but I think this entry shouldn't stand out
over the others. How would your patch look like?
 
 
 s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu\/Skolelinux Project/
 
 :-)
 
 I don't think that this patch would cause the entry to stand out over the 
 others. Do you ? IMO it would just become a little bit longer...

go! ;-)

 And, after all ( afaik), the projects name just isn't Debian-Edu anymore.

The mailing list obviously is still called that way as is the wiki page...

Cheers

Luk
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Bug#309917: please mention Skolelinux next to debian-edu on http://www.debian.org/devel/

2005-05-20 Thread Andreas Schuldei
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 05:24:04PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Luk,
 
 On Friday 20 May 2005 16:06, Luk Claes wrote:
  I understand your concern, but I think this entry shouldn't stand out
  over the others. How would your patch look like?
 
 s/Debian-Edu Project/Debian-Edu\/Skolelinux Project/

No, actually we want to go under the name of debian-edu in debian
circles. skolelinux is too norwegian (aka local) and we want to
be known under the debian name if possible.

that said, some countries have decided to call debian-edu
skolelinux anyway since they like it better. they are free to
do that.

 And, after all ( afaik), the projects name just isn't Debian-Edu anymore.

actually it is the other way around: it should be more debian-edu
and less skolelinux, internationally.



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