Bug#319081: mono: Seriously out of date build full of problems unusable

2005-07-19 Thread jacob appelbaum
Package: mono
Version: 1.1.6-4
Severity: normal


This version of mono has fundamental garbage collection bugs that have
since been fixed. I highly recommend upgrading to at least mono 1.1.7,
which is what wikipedia has deployed. 1.1.8.2 would be even better, of
course.

Please upgrade this ASAP as mono is useless to many serious
developers. Thanks for your time!


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.11.5y
Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Versions of packages mono depends on:
ii  mono-common   1.1.6-4common files for Mono
ii  mono-jit  1.1.6-4fast CLI (.NET) JIT compiler for M

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Bug#319081: [Pkg-mono-group] Bug#319081: mono: Seriously out of date build full of problems unusable

2005-07-19 Thread Jake Appelbaum
Dear Mirco Bauer,

 You are using debian/testing, means you are using older packages than
 the most current in the debian distribution (debian/unstable).
 debian/unstable contains 1.1.8.2 a while now, but it does not meet
 debian criteria to be updated in debian/testing yet.
 
 1.1.6 does not contain any serious bugs that prevent using Mono
 applications, since we used that version over a month in
 debian/unstable.
 See http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mono.html for more details.
 
 Soon 1.1.8.2 will enter debian/testing though.

While I am happy that 1.1.8.2 will be in testing soon, it's a bug that
it currently isn't in testing. Our use case involved a web service and
ASP.NET application that is long-running and does many large
transactions. Our use case triggers the GC (and other performance) bugs
that are present in mono 1.1.6. I am sure that once you test with this
use case, you will understand the urgency in getting the latest mono
version into testing.

Consider this a release critical bug as it makes the testing version
broken for this use case.

When do you think the push for 1.1.8.2 to testing will take place?

Thanks for your help!

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Bug#319081: [Pkg-mono-group] Bug#319081: mono: Seriously out of date build full of problems unusable

2005-07-19 Thread Mirco Bauer
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 14:19 -0700, Jake Appelbaum wrote:
 Dear Mirco Bauer,

 Consider this a release critical bug as it makes the testing version
 broken for this use case.
 
 When do you think the push for 1.1.8.2 to testing will take place?

The QA URL I pasted shows the state of updating mono in debian/testing.
Could be 1-2 weeks before it hits debian/testing, many on going
transistions in debian/unstable.

This bug could be serious for ASP.NET services indeed but it doesn't
make Mono unusable in debian/testing at general.

If you can't wait install the packages from debian/unstable (be warned,
debian/unstable is in a C++ transistion) or install the Mono 1.1.8.2
debian/sarge backports (they should work for debian/etch).

The backports you can find here
http://people.debian.org/~formorer/mono/

but this is now becoming now off topic..

 
 Thanks for your help!
 
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Mirco 'meebey' Bauer

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Bug#319081: [Pkg-mono-group] Bug#319081: mono: Seriously out of date build full of problems unusable

2005-07-19 Thread Jake Appelbaum
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 23:31 +0200, Mirco Bauer wrote:
 The QA URL I pasted shows the state of updating mono in debian/testing.
 Could be 1-2 weeks before it hits debian/testing, many on going
 transistions in debian/unstable.

Alright. Thanks.

 This bug could be serious for ASP.NET services indeed but it doesn't
 make Mono unusable in debian/testing at general.

Well, if you're writing helloworld.cs, sure, it's not a problem. If
you're using a program in any serious fashion, you're unable to actually
use mono. It will crash or hang or die in some mysterious way and the
reason is related to the previous issues that I expressed.

This is a release critical bug IMHO. The updates since then expressly
fix these issues because of the performance of this use case.

Anyway, this shouldn't be a wishlist bug. It's critical and should be
tagged as such. The version in testing is broken for anyone using mono
when it's running for a long period of time.

The methods used for testing mono in debian aren't sufficiently able to
find these memory management issues. That doesn't mean that mono isn't
broken. That means it's also a bug in how you're testing mono. It
doesn't exclude the fact that mono is also in need of a critical
upgrade.

 If you can't wait install the packages from debian/unstable (be warned,
 debian/unstable is in a C++ transistion) or install the Mono 1.1.8.2
 debian/sarge backports (they should work for debian/etch).
 
 The backports you can find here
 http://people.debian.org/~formorer/mono/

This will be useful to anyone else that has this problem. Thanks for
including it in the email.

Thanks,
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