Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-29 Thread Per Olofsson
Horms:
 With regards to pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386. 
 I notice that pcmcia-modules-2.4.27-i386 exists and presumably works.
 I've CCed the maintainer, Per Olofsson for comment.

Sorry for replying so late.

Yes, pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386 should indeed be removed.

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Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-15 Thread Horms
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 04:50:26AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:19:37AM +0900, Horms wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:35:47AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
   (...)
  Thanks, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this sooner rather
  than later
 
 I hope so too :)
  
  With regards to pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386. 
  I notice that pcmcia-modules-2.4.27-i386 exists and presumably works.
  I've CCed the maintainer, Per Olofsson for comment.
 
 Ok, either way, since 2.4.27 exists, I won't let pcmcia-modules-2.4.26 block
 removal.
  
  kernel-latest-2.6-amd64
   
   Ditto -- shouldn't this one be simply superseded by packages generated by 
   a
   next upload of linux-2.6?
  
  amd64 still doesn't seem to exist for linux-2.6, I'm not sure why,
  perhaps I am just blind or looking in the wrong place
  
  http://ftp2.jp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/
  
  However, once it is uploaded, it will have binary packages with
  the same names as those previously produced by the
  kernel-latest-2.6-amd64 source package. Does this mean that
  kernel-latest-2.6-amd64 will automatically be removed, or automatically
  flagged for removal? 
 
 Yes, if all binary packages of a give source package are 'hijacked' by another
 package, the source package will be automatically flagged for removal, and
 packages automatically flagged for removal will be removed by an ftp-team
 member every few days.
 
 So, no action needed, and not removing will ensure a smooth transition.

Thanks, I'll prepare a fresh list for you ASAP.

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Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-15 Thread Horms
reassign 323183 ftp.debian.org
thanks

As requested, here is an updated list of kernel and related packages
to be removed at this time. This does not include 2.6.8 and related
packages. Its probably best to handle them in a separate bug
once d-i no longer needs them.

kernel-source-2.4.24
kernel-source-2.4.25
kernel-source-2.4.26

kernel-patch-2.6.10-hppa

fai-kernels (request from Holger Levsen)

mol-modules-2.6.11 (mol-modules-2.6.12 is in new)

This is also separate from #328325, requesting the removal of
the following packages:

kernel-image-2.4.27-ia64
kernel-patch-2.4.27-ia64
linux-kernel-di-ia64

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Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-14 Thread Horms
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:54:04AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:01:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I write this email to ask, now that linux-2.6 2.6.12-6 is in testing, there
  isn't any reason to keep those 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels around, A quick
  glance listed those :
 
 (...)
 
  Also, if there are 2.6.8 kernels in sid/etch still, these can be removed as
  well.
 
 Please see #317079, #322697 and and #323183. This report is a duplicate from
 what's already in those three reports, so please followup to them where
 appropriate. I already see a duplicate discussion on whether 2.6.8 can be
 removed, so please coordinate in the -kernel team about this, I mailed -kernel
 about it before, and there's a bug on the kernel package (#323183) about it.

First up I'd like to applogise for the confusion and multiple bug
reports surrounding this. The simple truth is that the legacy
of the Sarge-era kernel packaging has left us with a mess, that
we are trying to sift through and slowly clean up. Its turning
out to be quite complicated, and thats not something that
you should have been asked to worry about.

I suggest that we just track this as 323183, rather than mucking around
with opening and merging existing bugs. Please let me know if you would
prefer a different approach.

I've just spent a bit of time looking through this and here
is a summary of where I beleive we are, others, please comment
if this is inaccurate or incomplete. If there are ammendments
I'll try and correlate them into an updated list.

Already removed:
  kernel-image-2.6.11-s390(done in Bug #317079)
  kernel-image-2.6.11-sparc   (done in Bug #317079)
  kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.11 (done in Bug #317079)
  kernel-source-2.6.11(done in Bug #317079)

  kernel-image-2.6.10-alpha   (done in Bug #322697)
  kernel-image-2.6.10-hppa(done in Bug #322697)
  kernel-image-2.6.10-sparc   (done in Bug #322697)
  kernel-source-2.6.10(done in Bug #322697)

Ready for removal by ftpmasters
  kernel-source-2.4.24
  kernel-source-2.4.25
  kernel-source-2.4.26

  kernel-image-2.6.11-alpha
  kernel-image-2.6.11-amd64
  kernel-image-2.6.11-i386
  kernel-image-2.6.11-ia64

  kernel-patch-2.6.10-hppa

  kernel-latest-2.6-amd64

  fai-kernels (request from Holger Levsen)

  mol-modules-2.6.11

Will be ready for removal once d-i moves from 2.6.8 to 2.6.12
  kernel-image-2.6.8-alpha
  kernel-image-2.6.8-amd64
  kernel-image-2.6.8-hppa
  kernel-image-2.6.8-i386
  kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64
  kernel-image-2.6.8-m68k
  kernel-image-2.6.8-s390
  kernel-image-2.6.8-sparc
  kernel-patch-2.6.8-hppa
  kernel-patch-2.6.8-m68k
  kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.8
  kernel-source-2.6.8
  kernel-latest-2.6-i386
  kernel-latest-2.6-s390
  kernel-latest-2.6-sparc
  kernel-latest-2.6-hppa

Not ready for removal
  kernel-latest-powerpc   (needed for 2.4 and in turn d-i)

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Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-14 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:27:32PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:54:04AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:01:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I write this email to ask, now that linux-2.6 2.6.12-6 is in testing, 
   there
   isn't any reason to keep those 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels around, A quick
   glance listed those :
  
  (...)
  
   Also, if there are 2.6.8 kernels in sid/etch still, these can be removed 
   as
   well.
  
  Please see #317079, #322697 and and #323183. This report is a duplicate from
  what's already in those three reports, so please followup to them where
  appropriate. I already see a duplicate discussion on whether 2.6.8 can be
  removed, so please coordinate in the -kernel team about this, I mailed 
  -kernel
  about it before, and there's a bug on the kernel package (#323183) about it.
 
 First up I'd like to applogise for the confusion and multiple bug
 reports surrounding this. The simple truth is that the legacy
 of the Sarge-era kernel packaging has left us with a mess, that
 we are trying to sift through and slowly clean up. Its turning
 out to be quite complicated, and thats not something that
 you should have been asked to worry about.
 
 I suggest that we just track this as 323183, rather than mucking around
 with opening and merging existing bugs. Please let me know if you would
 prefer a different approach.
 
 I've just spent a bit of time looking through this and here
 is a summary of where I beleive we are, others, please comment
 if this is inaccurate or incomplete. If there are ammendments
 I'll try and correlate them into an updated list.
 
 Already removed:
   kernel-image-2.6.11-s390(done in Bug #317079)
   kernel-image-2.6.11-sparc   (done in Bug #317079)
   kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.11 (done in Bug #317079)
   kernel-source-2.6.11(done in Bug #317079)
 
   kernel-image-2.6.10-alpha   (done in Bug #322697)
   kernel-image-2.6.10-hppa(done in Bug #322697)
   kernel-image-2.6.10-sparc   (done in Bug #322697)
   kernel-source-2.6.10(done in Bug #322697)
 
 Ready for removal by ftpmasters
   kernel-source-2.4.24
   kernel-source-2.4.25
   kernel-source-2.4.26
 
   kernel-image-2.6.11-alpha
   kernel-image-2.6.11-amd64
   kernel-image-2.6.11-i386
   kernel-image-2.6.11-ia64
 
   kernel-patch-2.6.10-hppa
 
   kernel-latest-2.6-amd64
 
   fai-kernels (request from Holger Levsen)
 
   mol-modules-2.6.11

I just uploaded mol-modules-2.6.12, so once they pass NEW, mol-modules-2.6.12
can go indeed.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:27:32PM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:54:04AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:01:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I write this email to ask, now that linux-2.6 2.6.12-6 is in testing, 
   there
   isn't any reason to keep those 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels around, A quick
   glance listed those :
  
  (...)
  
   Also, if there are 2.6.8 kernels in sid/etch still, these can be removed 
   as
   well.
  
  Please see #317079, #322697 and and #323183. This report is a duplicate from
  what's already in those three reports, so please followup to them where
  appropriate. I already see a duplicate discussion on whether 2.6.8 can be
  removed, so please coordinate in the -kernel team about this, I mailed 
  -kernel
  about it before, and there's a bug on the kernel package (#323183) about it.
 
 First up I'd like to applogise for the confusion and multiple bug
 reports surrounding this. The simple truth is that the legacy
 of the Sarge-era kernel packaging has left us with a mess, that
 we are trying to sift through and slowly clean up. Its turning
 out to be quite complicated, and thats not something that
 you should have been asked to worry about.

I understand,
 
 I suggest that we just track this as 323183, rather than mucking around
 with opening and merging existing bugs. Please let me know if you would
 prefer a different approach.

No, that is fine. Having just one report makes things easiest -- though the
most important thing is a clear overview of which sourcepackages are really
ready to be removed and which are not yet -- an overview which you've
succeeded quite well to produce.
 
 I've just spent a bit of time looking through this and here
 is a summary of where I beleive we are, others, please comment
 if this is inaccurate or incomplete. If there are ammendments
 I'll try and correlate them into an updated list.
 
 Already removed:
   kernel-image-2.6.11-s390(done in Bug #317079)
   kernel-image-2.6.11-sparc   (done in Bug #317079)
   kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.11 (done in Bug #317079)
   kernel-source-2.6.11(done in Bug #317079)
 
   kernel-image-2.6.10-alpha   (done in Bug #322697)
   kernel-image-2.6.10-hppa(done in Bug #322697)
   kernel-image-2.6.10-sparc   (done in Bug #322697)
   kernel-source-2.6.10(done in Bug #322697)

Indeed, I removed both source packages and all of the kernel-* stuff that
was broken by that removal. I did leave some 3rd-party packages around that
seemed like they 'just' needed to be upgraded to 2.6.12.
 
 Ready for removal by ftpmasters
   kernel-source-2.4.24
   kernel-source-2.4.25
   kernel-source-2.4.26

Reverse-dependencies:
** pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386 has an unsatisfied build-dependency: 
kernel-tree-2.4.26-2
** user-mode-linux has an unsatisfied build-dependency: kernel-source-2.4.26

I guess pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386 should be dropped too, and user-mode-linux
left broken for the moment?
 
   kernel-image-2.6.11-alpha
   kernel-image-2.6.11-amd64
   kernel-image-2.6.11-i386
   kernel-image-2.6.11-ia64

All gone already ttbomk.
 
   kernel-patch-2.6.10-hppa

Still around, ok.
 
   kernel-latest-2.6-amd64

Ditto -- shouldn't this one be simply superseded by packages generated by a
next upload of linux-2.6?
 
   fai-kernels (request from Holger Levsen)
 
   mol-modules-2.6.11

Ok.
 
After you clarified my two minor questions, could you please reassign this bug
back to ftp.debian.org? I'll then remove all packages mentioned from Ready
for removal by ftpmasters up until here. You can then open a new bug for the
packages mentioned below when the time is there.

 Will be ready for removal once d-i moves from 2.6.8 to 2.6.12
 (...)
 Not ready for removal
 (...)

Thanks a lot,
--Jeroen

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Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-14 Thread Horms
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:35:47AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:

[snip]

  I suggest that we just track this as 323183, rather than mucking around
  with opening and merging existing bugs. Please let me know if you would
  prefer a different approach.
 
 No, that is fine. Having just one report makes things easiest -- though the
 most important thing is a clear overview of which sourcepackages are really
 ready to be removed and which are not yet -- an overview which you've
 succeeded quite well to produce.

Thanks, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this sooner rather
than later

[snip]

Matt Zimmerman, the maintainer, has indicated that he is not
interested in updating uml to 2.6, which in his oppinion 
is the only way forward. I guess the package should be orphaned
or removed from the archive. But in any case it seems that
it shouldn't block the removal of kernel-source-2.4.26.
I have CCed Matt so he can clarify this.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323183;msg=25

With regards to pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386. 
I notice that pcmcia-modules-2.4.27-i386 exists and presumably works.
I've CCed the maintainer, Per Olofsson for comment.

kernel-image-2.6.11-alpha
kernel-image-2.6.11-amd64
kernel-image-2.6.11-i386
kernel-image-2.6.11-ia64
 
 All gone already ttbomk.
  
kernel-patch-2.6.10-hppa
 
 Still around, ok.
  
kernel-latest-2.6-amd64
 
 Ditto -- shouldn't this one be simply superseded by packages generated by a
 next upload of linux-2.6?

amd64 still doesn't seem to exist for linux-2.6, I'm not sure why,
perhaps I am just blind or looking in the wrong place

http://ftp2.jp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/

However, once it is uploaded, it will have binary packages with
the same names as those previously produced by the
kernel-latest-2.6-amd64 source package. Does this mean that
kernel-latest-2.6-amd64 will automatically be removed, or automatically
flagged for removal? 

fai-kernels (request from Holger Levsen)
  
mol-modules-2.6.11
 
 Ok.
  
 After you clarified my two minor questions, could you please reassign this bug
 back to ftp.debian.org? I'll then remove all packages mentioned from Ready
 for removal by ftpmasters up until here. You can then open a new bug for the
 packages mentioned below when the time is there.

[snip]

I'll wait for some feedback from Matt and Per and do just that.
Could you clarify the sistuation with regards to kernel-latest-2.6-amd64
being removed once linux-2.6 for amd64 is uploaded.

Thanks

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Bug#323183: Bug#328130: RM: please remove any remnant of 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernels from etch/sid

2005-09-14 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:19:37AM +0900, Horms wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:35:47AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
  (...)
 Thanks, hopefully we can get to the bottom of this sooner rather
 than later

I hope so too :)
 
 With regards to pcmcia-modules-2.4.26-i386. 
 I notice that pcmcia-modules-2.4.27-i386 exists and presumably works.
 I've CCed the maintainer, Per Olofsson for comment.

Ok, either way, since 2.4.27 exists, I won't let pcmcia-modules-2.4.26 block
removal.
 
 kernel-latest-2.6-amd64
  
  Ditto -- shouldn't this one be simply superseded by packages generated by a
  next upload of linux-2.6?
 
 amd64 still doesn't seem to exist for linux-2.6, I'm not sure why,
 perhaps I am just blind or looking in the wrong place
 
 http://ftp2.jp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/
 
 However, once it is uploaded, it will have binary packages with
 the same names as those previously produced by the
 kernel-latest-2.6-amd64 source package. Does this mean that
 kernel-latest-2.6-amd64 will automatically be removed, or automatically
 flagged for removal? 

Yes, if all binary packages of a give source package are 'hijacked' by another
package, the source package will be automatically flagged for removal, and
packages automatically flagged for removal will be removed by an ftp-team
member every few days.

So, no action needed, and not removing will ensure a smooth transition.
 
 Thanks

Thanks you,
--Jeroen

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