Bug#325366: forced to run pppoeconf every time to make a dsl connection

2005-08-27 Thread Phill Atwood
Package: pppoeconf
Version: 1.7
Severity: important


Installed sarge. Ran pppoeconf asking for pppd to be
run at boot time.  Connection was made succesfully.
However, upon rebooting the system, the command

# pon dsl-provider
Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.

failed to establish an internet connection this time.
Re-running pppoeconf as before resolves the problem
and establishes a new connection.

I'm expecting to run pppoeconf to configure my system
so that I can run "pon dsl-provider" and "poff" to
connect and disconnect from the internet.

Note: I've added pppoe to /etc/modules, but this does
not help.

Also, in /etc/ppp I have a file:

ppp_on_boot.dsl

but not a file:

ppp_on_boot


Thanks,
Phill


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.4.27-2-386
Locale: LANG=en_CA, LC_CTYPE=en_CA (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Versions of packages pppoeconf depends on:
ii  gettext-base0.14.4-2 GNU Internationalization utilities
ii  ppp 2.4.3-20050321+2 Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daem
ii  pppoe   3.5-4PPP over Ethernet driver
ii  sed 4.1.2-8  The GNU sed stream editor
ii  whiptail [whiptail-prov 0.51.6-20Displays user-friendly dialog boxe

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Bug#325366: forced to run pppoeconf every time to make a dsl connection

2005-08-29 Thread Eduard Bloch
reassign 325366 pppd
retitle 325366 No way to force an action before a pppoe action going up
thanks

> Installed sarge. Ran pppoeconf asking for pppd to be
> run at boot time.  Connection was made succesfully.
> However, upon rebooting the system, the command
> 
> # pon dsl-provider
> Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded.
> 
> failed to establish an internet connection this time.
> Re-running pppoeconf as before resolves the problem
> and establishes a new connection.
> 
> I'm expecting to run pppoeconf to configure my system
> so that I can run "pon dsl-provider" and "poff" to
> connect and disconnect from the internet.

No. You are expected either to use "ifup dsl-provider" or ask the ppp
maintainer what he has though before throwing out the
"auto-interface-up" patch from the ppp package without any good reasons
or a working solution to achieve the same functionality.

OTOH I expect him to say the F word and close this bug immediately...
that is too sad.

Cheers,
Eduard.
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Bug#325366: forced to run pppoeconf every time to make a dsl connection

2005-08-30 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Marco d'Itri [Tue, Aug 30 2005, 01:45:00PM]:
> On Aug 28, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > No. You are expected either to use "ifup dsl-provider" or ask the ppp
> > maintainer what he has though before throwing out the
> > "auto-interface-up" patch from the ppp package without any good reasons
> > or a working solution to achieve the same functionality.
> You know what I tought, so there is no point in reassigning bugs you
> know I do not accept.
> 
> ppp works on configured interfaces, that's all. Fix the system to
> configure them.

Easy to say. Please tell me which options I have and which still DO WORK
with pon. You have closed my request to link pon and ifup with the same
crap of explanation.

Eduard.
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Bug#325366: forced to run pppoeconf every time to make a dsl connection

2005-08-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 30, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Easy to say. Please tell me which options I have and which still DO WORK
> with pon. You have closed my request to link pon and ifup with the same
> crap of explanation.
Ethernet interfaces must be configured as ethernet interfaces in
/etc/network/interfaces. This way they will be automatically brought up
on boot.
A configured IP address is useful to communicate with the modem
management address, but if you do not want to configure one then you can
use the "manual" directive.

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Bug#325366: forced to run pppoeconf every time to make a dsl connection

2005-08-30 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Marco d'Itri [Tue, Aug 30 2005, 03:17:38PM]:
> On Aug 30, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Easy to say. Please tell me which options I have and which still DO WORK
> > with pon. You have closed my request to link pon and ifup with the same
> > crap of explanation.
> Ethernet interfaces must be configured as ethernet interfaces in
> /etc/network/interfaces. This way they will be automatically brought up
> on boot.
> A configured IP address is useful to communicate with the modem
> management address, but if you do not want to configure one then you can

Most modems used with PPPoE do not have management interfaces. There is
often not much use for an IP adress.

> use the "manual" directive.

The manual directive does not bring the interface up. And there should
be no reason to polute the config with it anyways.

Any other options? Programs should be error tolerant. ppp isn't since
you have deliberately removed the interface-up patch. And your arguments
sound like "it is okay for df to segfault if /dev is not mounted with
udev since everybody has to use udev" or similar things, the same
radical kind of argumentation not very close to reality.

Regards,
Eduard.
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Bug#325366: forced to run pppoeconf every time to make a dsl connection

2005-08-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 30, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Most modems used with PPPoE do not have management interfaces. There is
> often not much use for an IP adress.
This is not my experience.

> > use the "manual" directive.
> The manual directive does not bring the interface up. And there should
> be no reason to polute the config with it anyways.
iface eth0 inet manual
pre-up ip link set up $IFACE

I do not believe this is "pollution". You have a network interface, so
you need to configure it.

> Any other options? Programs should be error tolerant. ppp isn't since
> you have deliberately removed the interface-up patch. And your arguments
It was an ugly hack rejected by the upstream maintainer. There is not
much else to add.

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