Bug#327194: gtk-gnutella: Default sort order should be highest # hits on top

2005-09-12 Thread Christian Biere
Johan Walles wrote:
 As for the usability issue, I have to click the column header for every 
 search, every time I add a new search, and every time I re-start 
 gtk-gnutella.  So it's not a one-off operation as you seem to suggest.

The default was switched back to unsorted. However, the search
results context menu has now an item Make current sorting default
to declare the sorting settings of the current search as defaults.
If you start further changes, the results will use these sorting
settings automagically. Furthermore, the column headers in the
have also three instead of just two states now, so you can make the
tree unsorted again. Finally, the sorting settings for each search
is saved and restored on startup. The latter two features have
been implemented in the Gtk+ 1.2 for quite some time but are new
in the Gtk+ 2.x GUI.

Thus, this report can be closed when the next release (0.95.5 or
0.96) is available.

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Bug#327194: gtk-gnutella: Default sort order should be highest # hits on top

2005-09-10 Thread Christian Biere
Johan Walles wrote:
 As I don't get any spam in my searches (a filter called music with 
 only a size and a name requirement) I don't ever see any spam in my 
 search results, so I haven't really seen that problem.  In my case the 
 count works well as a quality indicator.  I realize that might not be 
 the case for everyone.
 
 As for the usability issue, I have to click the column header for every 
 search, every time I add a new search, and every time I re-start 
 gtk-gnutella.  So it's not a one-off operation as you seem to suggest.

Ok, I reconsidered and as it turned out to be much simpler than I
expected, this is now implemented in Gtk-Gnutella in current CVS.

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Bug#327194: gtk-gnutella: Default sort order should be highest # hits on top

2005-09-09 Thread Johan Walles
As I don't get any spam in my searches (a filter called music with 
only a size and a name requirement) I don't ever see any spam in my 
search results, so I haven't really seen that problem.  In my case the 
count works well as a quality indicator.  I realize that might not be 
the case for everyone.


As for the usability issue, I have to click the column header for every 
search, every time I add a new search, and every time I re-start 
gtk-gnutella.  So it's not a one-off operation as you seem to suggest.


 Cheers //Johan

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there's no default sorting at all. The results are implicitely
arranged in the order they arrive and grouped by checksum. I
don't think sorting by number of sources by default is really a
good idea because in many cases these results are actually spam.
This counter shouldn't be confused with a quality indicator or
the probability for a successful download. It is what it is, a
counter of the number of results matching a certain checksum.
Sorting by this counter as a default might also increase the
likelyness that less experienced users tend to download the spam
results as they would appear on top of all others.

Changing the sort order takes only a single click, so it's no
usability issue either.


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Bug#327194: gtk-gnutella: Default sort order should be highest # hits on top

2005-09-08 Thread Johan Walles
Package: gtk-gnutella
Version: 0.95.4-1
Severity: wishlist


Try this:
Start gtk-gnutella.
Do a search for something that will give you a bunch of hits (try abba for 
example).
Look at the search results when you have received a bunch of them.

Current result:
The results list is sorted by something other than the number of hits for each 
search 
result.

Expected result:
The results list should be sorted by the number of hits for each search result.

Workaround:
Click the # column header in each search.

Note:
The reason I want this is because I'm most often most interested in high 
quality hits.  
Assuming that URN:SHA1s with garbage doesn't spread to as many nodes as the 
high 
quality hits, sorting by # hits will tend to put the most high quality hits on 
top.  
This isn't *guaranteed* to work of course, but for me it tends to work well in 
practice.

And as stated above, of course I can manually change the sorting order for all 
searches 
after starting gtk-gnutella, and after adding a new search.  It's just that 
since the 
only search order I tend to use is falling-number-of-hits, it would be better 
if that 
was the default.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'testing-proposed-updates'), (500, 
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Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.9-1-686
Locale: LANG=sv_SE, LC_CTYPE=sv_SE (charmap=ISO-8859-1)

Versions of packages gtk-gnutella depends on:
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ii  libc6 2.3.5-6GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libglib2.0-0  2.8.0-1The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgtk2.0-0   2.6.8-1The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libpango1.0-0 1.8.2-1Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libxml2   2.6.20-1   GNOME XML library
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Bug#327194: gtk-gnutella: Default sort order should be highest # hits on top

2005-09-08 Thread Christian Biere
Hi,

there's no default sorting at all. The results are implicitely
arranged in the order they arrive and grouped by checksum. I
don't think sorting by number of sources by default is really a
good idea because in many cases these results are actually spam.
This counter shouldn't be confused with a quality indicator or
the probability for a successful download. It is what it is, a
counter of the number of results matching a certain checksum.
Sorting by this counter as a default might also increase the
likelyness that less experienced users tend to download the spam
results as they would appear on top of all others.

Changing the sort order takes only a single click, so it's no
usability issue either.

Please use one of the mailing lists, if you have issues with
or questions about Gtk-Gnutella:

gtk-gnutella-devel at lists.sf.net
gtk-gnutella-users at lists.sf.net

-- 
Christian


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