Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.
Hi, wow, almost exactly one year :-/ On Wednesday 05 October 2005 21:59, giskard wrote: ... I was reminded of this issue when I saw that #156614 was closed (an RFP for cinelerra). A while ago cinelerra(-cvs) 2.1 has been released and I would like to know if the issues described in this bug (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=331072) and specifically the licence-issues listed in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/cinelerra-cvs-sources.txt?bug=331072;msg=25;att=1 have been fixed. regards, Holger pgpOnlnZu1kxY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#156614: Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.
Hi, please respect the reply-to: and subscribe to the bugs if you're interested in solving them... Thanks. On Saturday 01 October 2005 15:05, Riccardo Setti wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Riccardo Setti [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: cinelerra-cvs Version : 2.0-cvs Upstream Author : Besides the original upstream (Heroine Virtual Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the people at http://cvs.cinelerra.org/devcorner/cvswrite.html (or the URL itself) should be mentioned. * URL : http://www.example.org/ This should be changed to http://cvs.cinelerra.org This is a branched version of Cinelerra sometimes called Cinelerra-CVS I dont think it's useful (at the moment) to have both versions of cinelerra in Debian. So #78209, #156614 and #239570 could be closed. OTOH, it's a seperatly maintained fork, so maybe not. What do you think ? BTW, IMHO it would really be a good idea to change that name. Maintainers of cinelerra-cvs, what do you think ? Cinelerra has also been renamed in the past :-) On Saturday 01 October 2005 15:44, Sam Hocevar wrote: Be careful, more than 1000 Cinelerra source files do not have a proper license, a dozen are copyrighted by the MPEG group, another dozen are under the old ugly OpenDivX license, and you have many additional strange licensing terms in some files (such as free to copy and modify, but not to redistribute). Sam gave me a list with his investigation of the cinelerra-cvs, I have attached it. What strikes me most, is the lack of licences for 15% of the whole sourcecode. (1013 out of 6631 (Sam's list from 2004-04-25 / my cvs-checkout from monday). Since this investigation is a year old, I would like to ask upstream and the maintainers of the fork to comment on the current situation. Have those issues been addressed ? (Yes, i'm too lazy to check this myself now. Thats why I'm asking the people who should know whether they did that work ;) Are you in touch with Holger Levsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]? We talked about Cinelerra at the QA miniconf and I sent him a list of problematic source files I had gathered. He is in touch with other people interested in packaging Cinelerra. I've not really got into touch with the cinelerra-cvs community yet, only with Herman Robak (who is deeply involved in cinelerra-cvs)... With this mail I try to address the issues and connect the people who could have an interest in solving them. http://www.heroinewarrior.com/support.php3 (real upstream) mentions the fork on their support/harrassment page, so I tend to think, they're somewhat happy about it... Another big problem: Currently the build requirements for the debian packages provided from cinelerra-cvs (see http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html or http://developer.skolelinux.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/external/cinelerra/hvirtual/README.BUILD?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/plain ) include a number of packages which are not in Debian but distributed via ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ - I hope that it will be possible to create a cinelerra version, which works with free codecs from Debian proper only, and still can use additional codecs from marillat. I know that this most probably will be a long journey or even impossible - but if this _is_ impossible I would like to spread the word, so there is an incentive to work on a truly free tool for editing videos. Please reply if you want to help on this. If this gets started, we could create an alioth-project to group-maintain cinelerra-cvs, but for discussing those details it's currently too early IMHO. regards, Holger (subscribed to those bugs and cinelerra-cvs..) libsndfile/examples/sndfile-play-beos.cpp: GPL plugins/freeverb/Components/allpass.cpp: public domain plugins/freeverb/Components/comb.cpp: public domain plugins/freeverb/Components/revmodel.cpp: public domain soundtest.c: ??? cinelerra/jdatadst.c: no license cinelerra/jerrormgr.c: no license guicast/bootstrap.c: no license guicast/pngtoh.c: LGPL libmpeg3/audio/ac3.c: no license libmpeg3/audio/bit_allocation.c: GPL libmpeg3/audio/dct.c: GPL libmpeg3/audio/exponents.c: GPL libmpeg3/audio/header.c: no license (header file) libmpeg3/audio/huffman.c: no license (pure data) libmpeg3/audio/layer1.c: no license (almost empty) libmpeg3/audio/layer2.c: no license libmpeg3/audio/layer3.c: no license libmpeg3/audio/mantissa.c: GPL libmpeg3/audio/mpeg3audio.c: no license libmpeg3/audio/pcm.c: no license libmpeg3/audio/synthesizers.c: no license libmpeg3/audio/tables.c: no license libmpeg3/audio/uncouple.c: GPL libmpeg3/bitstream.c: no license libmpeg3/libmpeg3.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg2qt.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3atrack.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3cat.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3css.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3css_fake.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3demux.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3dump.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3ifo.c: no license libmpeg3/mpeg3io.c: no license
Bug#156614: Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.
Il giorno mer, 05/10/2005 alle 20.39 +0200, Holger Levsen ha scritto: hello, Hi, Besides the original upstream (Heroine Virtual Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]) the people at http://cvs.cinelerra.org/devcorner/cvswrite.html (or the URL itself) should be mentioned. i don't know :) probably you are in right. i fogot it. sorry. * URL : http://www.example.org/ This should be changed to http://cvs.cinelerra.org same. This is a branched version of Cinelerra sometimes called Cinelerra-CVS I dont think it's useful (at the moment) to have both versions of cinelerra in Debian. So #78209, #156614 and #239570 could be closed. alredy close (see damog's mail in d-d-a). OTOH, it's a seperatly maintained fork, so maybe not. What do you think ? BTW, IMHO it would really be a good idea to change that name. Maintainers of cinelerra-cvs, what do you think ? Cinelerra has also been renamed in the past :-) afaik we will discuss it in the next weeks, months, years :) On Saturday 01 October 2005 15:44, Sam Hocevar wrote: Be careful, more than 1000 Cinelerra source files do not have a proper license, a dozen are copyrighted by the MPEG group, another dozen are under the old ugly OpenDivX license, and you have many additional strange licensing terms in some files (such as free to copy and modify, but not to redistribute). Sam gave me a list with his investigation of the cinelerra-cvs, I have attached it. What strikes me most, is the lack of licences for 15% of the whole sourcecode. (1013 out of 6631 (Sam's list from 2004-04-25 / my cvs-checkout from monday). Since this investigation is a year old, I would like to ask upstream and the maintainers of the fork to comment on the current situation. Have those issues been addressed ? (Yes, i'm too lazy to check this myself now. Thats why I'm asking the people who should know whether they did that work ;) we start talking about this issue last week. Another big problem: Currently the build requirements for the debian packages provided from cinelerra-cvs (see http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.html or http://developer.skolelinux.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/external/cinelerra/hvirtual/README.BUILD?rev=HEADcontent-type=text/plain ) include a number of packages which are not in Debian but distributed via ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ - I hope that it will be possible to create a cinelerra version, which works with free codecs from Debian proper only, and still can use additional codecs from marillat. afaik it could be possible, we are working on it. a the moment cinelerra-cvs supports the encode to ogg/theora. I know that this most probably will be a long journey or even impossible - but if this _is_ impossible I would like to spread the word, so there is an incentive to work on a truly free tool for editing videos. :) regards, Holger (subscribed to those bugs and cinelerra-cvs..) -- ciao giskard non ho peli sulla lingua. e se ce li ho... non sono miei. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Riccardo Setti [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: cinelerra-cvs Version : 2.0-cvs Upstream Author : * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : GPL Description : non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux. Cinelerra, the first Linux based real-time editing and special effects system is a revolutionary Open Source HD media editing system. It has a number of effects built into the system including numerous telecine effects, video special effects including compositing, and a complete audio effects system. This is a branched version of Cinelerra sometimes called Cinelerra-CVS . Please visit cvs.cinelerra.org for more information regarding this duality. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.13 Locale: LANG=it_IT.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=it_IT.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.
On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 03:05:08PM +0200, Riccardo Setti wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Riccardo Setti [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: cinelerra-cvs Version : 2.0-cvs Upstream Author : * URL : http://www.example.org/ * License : GPL Description : non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux. Cinelerra, the first Linux based real-time editing and special effects system is a revolutionary Open Source HD media editing system. You know there has been an RFP on cinelerra itself for a very long time, almost 5 years. See bugs.debian.org/78209, 156614, 239570. Why do you want to have a CVS version from the package if there even isn't a normal version of it in the archive? Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#331072: ITP: cinelerra-cvs -- non-linear video editor and compositor for Linux.
Kurt Roeckx wrote: You know there has been an RFP on cinelerra itself for a very long time, almost 5 years. See bugs.debian.org/78209, 156614, 239570. Why do you want to have a CVS version from the package if there even isn't a normal version of it in the archive? cinelerra is forked. To repeat what Riccardo has written: This is a branched version of Cinelerra sometimes called Cinelerra-CVS . Please visit cvs.cinelerra.org for more information regarding this duality. But your reaction proves that the name cinelerra-cvs is misleading. Cheers, Andreas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]