Bug#339359: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4
found 339359 1:3.2.1-3 quit Am Sonntag, den 12.11.2006, 17:12 +0100 schrieb Paul Menzel: […] Ok, here are my questions for this problem. (If for some answers there exists documentation on the net, please point me to it, since I do not want to waste your time any further.) 1. a) Why is for example Times New Roman shown and Helvetica is not? As Vincent pointed out in his reply [1] – I did not get being not subscribed to the report –, it is Times that is missing and not Times New Roman. Helvetica is still missing. b) Why is OOo.org unable to display Helvetica correctly and needs substitution? 2. Why does Helvetica show up in other programs font selector list (for example The GIMP)? I checked again and current GIMP (2.6.8-3) does not display the missing fonts either anymore. So it looks like it is a problem with some font system. I compared gimp and openoffice.org-core and they both depend on libfreetype6. I could not find out what package installs the fonts Times and Helvetica `xlsfonts` lists. Searching the Web I could not find it either. Could anyone help, please? 3. Why is it available again, when you export it to PDF? 4. Do you know if this is the same case under M$ Windows? 5. Is Nimbus Sans L available under M$ Office? 6. Where can I figure out how OOo is substituting fonts? 7. As in the middle, why is there a bigger line spacing, when no font substitutions are set up? Maybe a summary of those answers could be included in REAMDE.Debian . Thanks, Paul [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=339359#51 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#339359: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4
Hi, after I had almost finished this reply, I figured out how stupid I have been and I already say sorry for this. (Tut mir echt Leid.) I still have a question concerning this topic, so if you are in a hurry and do not want to read my excuses and what I did wrong, just jump right to the end. I think the main fault was, that I did not reload the document. Not seeing any difference, I was confused why I should replace Nimbus Sans L by Helvetica and not the other way round. So I also added to replace Helvetica by Nimbus Sans L. After restarting OOo, that setting made all useless (something like a loop) and nothing had changed. Writing this response, I tried it again and I figured it out. Now follow my tests, which worked this time. Am Samstag, den 11.11.2006, 23:28 +0100 schrieb Joo Martin: Am Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:33:36 +0100 schrieb Paul Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tried your instructions, but unfortunately the document set with Helvetica font and then Nimbus Sans L is still to large (before it covered one page, now also a bit of a second one). Please make following tests and controlling above PDF: a) Helvetica in document = export as PDF = test fonts with pdffonts = in my OOo2 I have the font NimbusSansL-Regu in the PDF $ ls -l test.odt -rw-r--r-- 1 name name 74705 2006-11-12 13:48 test.odt -rw-r--r-- 1 name name 221987 2006-11-12 13:54 test.pdf $ pdffonts neubew-mit-Passfoto.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID --- --- --- - NimbusSanL-Bold Type 1 yes no yes 21 0 NimbusSanL-Bold Type 1 yes no yes 24 0 NimbusSanL-Regu Type 1 yes no yes 13 0 NimbusSanL-Regu Type 1 yes no yes 16 0 (Ok, some more informations: When I open the document in oowriter the font selector list (Schriftart) shows Helvetica. Marking some text and changing the font to Nimbus Sans L does not change anything.) b) Define substition table as written in my email before c) Helvetica in document = export as PDF = test fonts with pdffonts = in my OOo2 I have the font Helvetica in the PDF $ ls -l test2.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 name name 18923 2006-11-12 14:27 test2.pdf $ pdffonts test2.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID --- --- --- - Helvetica-Bold Type 1 no no no 9 0 HelveticaType 1 no no no 10 0 Great, sorry for not testing this before. What do you will say with Nimbus Sans L is still to large ? Ok, I compared a print-out from half a year ago. There everything fits on one page. Now my father said, he did not change anything in the document and opened it some weeks ago. Now the end of the text is on a second page. I compared those two and it looks like the line spacing (Zeilenabstand) is bigger than before. It is set to 0 in the paragraph option (Absatz) menu. That is the reason it is needing more room. Figuring out the one above, it looks like that, if no font substitutions are set up, the line spacing seems to be bigger. Maybe this should be a separate bug report? Maybe here are some more informations: In contrast to the original post, the fonts Times New Roman is shown (also the msttcorefonts and Courier). So 1. Could you please check if those fonts are also available to you? Yes, I have installed all Windows-98 fonts Typing xlsfonts on the console and grepping for helvet or times, the fonts are shown. For example: -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--20-140-100-100-p-98-iso8859-1 or -adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-1 2. Is that also true in your setup? Yes, I have this fonts too, but they will generated with an alias-file inside the fonts-path. Now another info for your special wish: You CAN use helvetica fonts, it doesn't matter, wether you can see the font in the font-selector-list. You could make helvetica fonts visible in the list (only for writer!), but it's a little bit tricky and have no relevance / advantage, because you need again the fonts-substitution as written in my first email. Ok, here are my questions for this problem. (If for some answers there exists documentation on the net, please point me to it, since I do not want to waste your time any further.) 1. a) Why is for example Times New Roman shown and Helvetica is not? b) Why is OOo.org unable to display Helvetica correctly and needs substitution? 2. Why does Helvetica show up in other programs font selector list (for example The GIMP)? 3. Why is it available again, when you export it to PDF? 4. Do you know if this is the same case under M$ Windows? 5. Is Nimbus Sans L available under M$ Office? 6. Where can I figure out how OOo is substituting fonts?
Bug#339359: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4
Am Sonntag, den 05.11.2006, 22:26 +0100 schrieb Joo Martin: Hello Paul, my father told me today, that the Helvetica font is not available in OOo anymore for a week or so. I had the same problems with the OOo 2.x some months ago and at the beginning I have tested some ways to get Helvetica/Times Fonts again. My best solution now (in german language): --- Extras / Optionen / Openoffice.org / Schriftarten: xErsetzungstabelle x _Nimbus Mono L Courier x _Nimbus Roman No9 L Times x _Nimbus Nimbus Sans LHelvetica --- and I use the Nimbus-Fonts as default fonts. This will say: the Nimbus-Fonts are TTF-Fonts as Type1-Fonts-Substitutions of Courier, Times, Helvica. Now my Fonts-Design is the same as before and the PDF-Export-Files now again very small, because of the substition rules above. I tried your instructions, but unfortunately the document set with Helvetica font and then Nimbus Sans L is still to large (before it covered one page, now also a bit of a second one). Maybe here are some more informations: In contrast to the original post, the fonts Times New Roman is shown (also the msttcorefonts and Courier). So 1. Could you please check if those fonts are also available to you? Typing xlsfonts on the console and grepping for helvet or times, the fonts are shown. For example: -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--20-140-100-100-p-98-iso8859-1 or -adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-1 2. Is that also true in your setup? On IRC someone suggested that Helvetica is not a free fonts and that is the reason it is not shown anymore. 3. Has anyone (maybe Rene) more information about this? Hope we can solve this issue soon. Ciao, Joo (Germany) Greetings Paul signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Bug#339359: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4
Am Sat, 11 Nov 2006 12:33:36 +0100 schrieb Paul Menzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tried your instructions, but unfortunately the document set with Helvetica font and then Nimbus Sans L is still to large (before it covered one page, now also a bit of a second one). Please make following tests and controlling above PDF: a) Helvetica in document = export as PDF = test fonts with pdffonts = in my OOo2 I have the font NimbusSansL-Regu in the PDF b) Define substition table as written in my email before c) Helvetica in document = export as PDF = test fonts with pdffonts = in my OOo2 I have the font Helvetica in the PDF What do you will say with Nimbus Sans L is still to large ? Maybe here are some more informations: In contrast to the original post, the fonts Times New Roman is shown (also the msttcorefonts and Courier). So 1. Could you please check if those fonts are also available to you? Yes, I have installed all Windows-98 fonts Typing xlsfonts on the console and grepping for helvet or times, the fonts are shown. For example: -adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--20-140-100-100-p-98-iso8859-1 or -adobe-times-medium-i-normal--14-140-75-75-p-73-iso8859-1 2. Is that also true in your setup? Yes, I have this fonts too, but they will generated with an alias-file inside the fonts-path. Now another info for your special wish: You CAN use helvetica fonts, it doesn't matter, wether you can see the font in the font-selector-list. You could make helvetica fonts visible in the list (only for writer!), but it's a little bit tricky and have no relevance / advantage, because you need again the fonts-substitution as written in my first email. Ciao, Joo (Germany) Get my GPG key from http://www.joomart.de/debian/pub_key.asc pgpFfzsIVxbWg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#339359: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4
Hello Paul, my father told me today, that the Helvetica font is not available in OOo anymore for a week or so. I had the same problems with the OOo 2.x some months ago and at the beginning I have tested some ways to get Helvetica/Times Fonts again. My best solution now (in german language): --- Extras / Optionen / Openoffice.org / Schriftarten: xErsetzungstabelle x _Nimbus Mono L Courier x _Nimbus Roman No9 L Times x _Nimbus Nimbus Sans LHelvetica --- and I use the Nimbus-Fonts as default fonts. This will say: the Nimbus-Fonts are TTF-Fonts as Type1-Fonts-Substitutions of Courier, Times, Helvica. Now my Fonts-Design is the same as before and the PDF-Export-Files now again very small, because of the substition rules above. Ciao, Joo (Germany) Get my GPG key from http://www.joomart.de/debian/pub_key.asc pgp8KdKP9cTZC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#339359: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4
package openoffice.org found 339359 2.0.4-5 severity 339359 important # renders package unusable for some users since the layout is different with different font stop signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Bug#339359: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4
Subject: openoffice.org: Missing fonts (including Helvetica) after upgrade to 2.0.4 Followup-For: Bug #339359 Package: openoffice.org Version: 2.0.4-2 Severity: important stop *** Please type your report below this line *** Hi there, my father told me today, that the Helvetica font is not available in OOo anymore for a week or so. As mentioned above, the font is installed for example firefox and gimp detect them. Unfortunately I have no clue where to look for the error. Please tell me if I can help with something. Thanks, Paul -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-1-686 Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages openoffice.org depends on: ii openoffice.org-base 2.0.4-2OpenOffice.org office suite - data ii openoffice.org-calc 2.0.4-2OpenOffice.org office suite - spre ii openoffice.org-core 2.0.4-2OpenOffice.org office suite archit ii openoffice.org-draw 2.0.4-2OpenOffice.org office suite - draw ii openoffice.org-impress2.0.4-2OpenOffice.org office suite - pres ii openoffice.org-java-common2.0.4-3OpenOffice.org office suite Java s ii openoffice.org-math 2.0.4-2OpenOffice.org office suite - equa ii openoffice.org-writer 2.0.4-2OpenOffice.org office suite - word openoffice.org recommends no packages. -- no debconf information signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
