Bug#340373: spellcheck should allow use of fallback language
Package: openoffice.org Version: 1:2.3.1-4 Followup-For: Bug #340373 Now that #227655 is fixed, we do have an Australian dictionary, so my own documents are happy. I therefore do not need the fallback mechanism myself. I'll leave this bug open however for other environments, since the fallback mechanism exists in /etc/openoffice/dictionary.lst but is not automated. For instance I see there still isn't a Canadian English dictionary (there is a South African one). Would Indians like an en IN option? Do Latin Americans get es ES ? The open question then is whether the OpenOffice developers think it's reasonable for users to manually add the fallback to /etc/openoffice/dictionary.lst, in the way which Gary explained. Or would it be a better solution to allow this to be managed in software as part of the OpenOffice UI, or at least as a Debian postinst option? That would certainly be nicer for users. So I'll leave this bug open for now. Drew -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.24 Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages openoffice.org depends on: ii openoffice.org-base 1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org office suite - data ii openoffice.org-calc 1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org office suite - spre ii openoffice.org-core 1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org office suite archit ii openoffice.org-draw 1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org office suite - draw ii openoffice.org-filter-binfilt 1:2.3.1-4 Legacy filters (e.g. StarOffice 5. ii openoffice.org-filter-mobiled 1:2.3.1-5 Mobile Devices Filters for OpenOff ii openoffice.org-impress1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org office suite - pres ii openoffice.org-java-common1:2.3.1-5 OpenOffice.org office suite Java s ii openoffice.org-math 1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org office suite - equa ii openoffice.org-officebean 1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org Office Bean ii openoffice.org-writer 1:2.3.1-4 OpenOffice.org office suite - word openoffice.org recommends no packages. Versions of packages openoffice.org-core depends on: ii fontconfig 2.5.0-2 generic font configuration library ii libc6 2.7-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libcairo2 1.4.14-1 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libcurl3-gnutls7.18.0-1 Multi-protocol file transfer libra ii libdb4.5 4.5.20-11 Berkeley v4.5 Database Libraries [ ii libexpat1 1.95.8-4 XML parsing C library - runtime li ii libfreetype6 2.3.5-1+b1FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgcc11:4.3-20080202-1 GCC support library ii libglib2.0-0 2.14.6-1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgstreamer-plugins-b 0.10.17-1 GStreamer libraries from the "base ii libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.17-1 Core GStreamer libraries and eleme ii libgtk2.0-02.12.7-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libhunspell-1.1-0 1.1.9-1 spell checker and morphological an ii libhyphen0 2.3-5 ALTLinux hyphenation library - sha ii libice62:1.0.4-1 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libicu38 3.8-6 International Components for Unico ii libjpeg62 6b-14 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG ii libldap-2.4-2 2.4.7-4 OpenLDAP libraries ii libneon27-gnutls 0.27.2-1 An HTTP and WebDAV client library ii libnspr4-0d4.7.0~1.9b1-2 NetScape Portable Runtime Library ii libnss3-1d 3.12.0~1.9b1-2Network Security Service libraries ii libpam0g 0.99.7.1-5Pluggable Authentication Modules l ii libpango1.0-0 1.18.4-1 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libportaudio2 19+svn20071022-2 Portable audio I/O - shared librar ii libsm6 2:1.0.3-1+b1 X11 Session Management library ii libsndfile11.0.17-4 Library for reading/writing audio ii libstartup-notificatio 0.9-1 library for program launch feedbac ii libstdc++6 4.3-20080202-1The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libstlport4.6c24.6.2-3 STLport C++ class library ii libx11-6 2:1.1.3-1 X11 client-side library ii libxaw72:1.0.4-1 X11 Athena Widget library ii libxext6 1:1.0.3-2 X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxinerama1 1:1.0.2-1 X11 Xinerama extension library ii libxml22.6.31.dfsg-1 GNOME XML library ii libxrender11:0.9.4-1 X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxslt1.1 1.1.22-1 X
Bug#340373: spellcheck should allow use of fallback language
On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 02:31 +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Hi, > > Drew Parsons wrote: > > I've defined the default document language in Options: Language > > Settings->Languages to English (Australian). Likewise, I've selected the > > dictionary in Language Settings->Writing Aids->Myspell Spellchecker (Edit) > > to English (UK). But this spellcheck dictionary setting is being ignored. > > > > It's not just English (Australian). What if I want to write a multicultural > > document, with French and German sections, say. How am I supposed to > > spellcheck them as well when the language used for spellchecking is so > > tightly bound to the document default language? > > It's not. It's bound to the language of the text. You can e.g. have > german as document default language and format english parts as English > (UK) at Format->Character. Then that part is considered English (UK) and > will be checked with the en_UK dictionary. > > Is that what you want? Or do I misunderstand this report? > OK, Format->Character was something I had missed, thanks for pointing it out. I can use it to set the text to en(UK), in which case the spellcheck does check it. That deals with my French/German multicultural example. As far as using it to check Australian text with a UK dictionary, however, it feels like a bit of a nuisance which ought not to be necessary. In my opinion it should possible to define a default for each language. That is defining en_GB, for example, as the default dictionary for any en_XX variant, if it doesn't have its own specific dictionary. The same would work for others, e.g. fr_CA falls back to fr, which is set to an fr_FR dictionary, if there is no specific French Canadian dictionary installed. Likewise de_AT would fall back to de, which might be set to the de_DE dictionary. I apologise if this kind of mechanism goes out of scope from what you are able to do with OpenOffice.org. It should be something myspell itself is able to do. Thanks for pointing out the Format->Character workaround. Happily for my specific situation, it can been resolved once bug #227655 is closed. Drew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#340373: spellcheck should allow use of fallback language
Hi, Drew Parsons wrote: > I've defined the default document language in Options: Language > Settings->Languages to English (Australian). Likewise, I've selected the > dictionary in Language Settings->Writing Aids->Myspell Spellchecker (Edit) > to English (UK). But this spellcheck dictionary setting is being ignored. > > It's not just English (Australian). What if I want to write a multicultural > document, with French and German sections, say. How am I supposed to > spellcheck them as well when the language used for spellchecking is so > tightly bound to the document default language? It's not. It's bound to the language of the text. You can e.g. have german as document default language and format english parts as English (UK) at Format->Character. Then that part is considered English (UK) and will be checked with the en_UK dictionary. Is that what you want? Or do I misunderstand this report? Regards, Rene signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#340373: spellcheck should allow use of fallback language
Package: openoffice.org Version: 2.0.0-2 Severity: normal Hi, I have my documents set by default to English (Australian). What else would I use, I'm Australian, right? Apart from spelling, there are questions of date, decimal, money formatting and cultural pride. So selecting English (UK) is not a satisfactory workaround. As you are aware, there is no en_AU dictionary. In the Englishes, there is only en_GB and en_US. So I've installed the British dictionary, and I'm quite happy to use it as a "next best" for spellchecking my English (Australian) OOo documents. The only problem is, I can't (unless there's some secret option hidden somewhere). OOo does not let me specify which dictionary I want to use for spellchecking. It just says "this document is Australian, there is no en_AU dictionary, so too bad". That is, when I click F7 for spellchecking, the box comes up, but just says "The spellcheck is complete" and exits immediately without letting me get to the underlying spelling dialog box where I might have otherwise been able to select a different dictionary. Any spelling errors are completely ignored. I've defined the default document language in Options: Language Settings->Languages to English (Australian). Likewise, I've selected the dictionary in Language Settings->Writing Aids->Myspell Spellchecker (Edit) to English (UK). But this spellcheck dictionary setting is being ignored. It's not just English (Australian). What if I want to write a multicultural document, with French and German sections, say. How am I supposed to spellcheck them as well when the language used for spellchecking is so tightly bound to the document default language? Can you please be so kind as to decouple the tight binding between document language and spellcheck dictionary? Thank you, Drew Parsons -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Kernel: Linux 2.6.14 Locale: LANG=en_AU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages openoffice.org depends on: ii openoffice.org-base 2.0.0-2OpenOffice.org office suite - data ii openoffice.org-calc 2.0.0-2OpenOffice.org office suite - spre ii openoffice.org-core 2.0.0-2OpenOffice.org office suite archit ii openoffice.org-draw 2.0.0-2OpenOffice.org office suite - draw ii openoffice.org-impress2.0.0-2OpenOffice.org office suite - pres ii openoffice.org-math 2.0.0-2OpenOffice.org office suite - equa ii openoffice.org-writer 2.0.0-2OpenOffice.org office suite - word openoffice.org recommends no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]