Bug#340707: rar support violates DFSG #4

2005-11-25 Thread Robert Millan
Package: xmms-modplug
Severity: serious
Justification: DFSG #4

This package has a "Suggests: rar" tag.  If it has the functionality to create
rar archives via rar, this is a serious problem, because it is encouraging users
to create "trap archives" that can't be extracted with free software.  I believe
this is a violation of DFSG #4 ("Our priorities are our users and free
software") since we put:

  - A minority of our users (those who use rar to publish data).

before:

  - The majority of our users (who can't extract the data in a pure Debian
system).
  - The free software community, for which trap archive formats are seriously
detrimental.

OTOH, if this package is only using rar to extract these archives, then it'd be
better to use the unrar package instead (in that case severity of this bug
should be lowered).

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-1-k7
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Bug#340707: rar support violates DFSG #4

2005-11-28 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Zed Pobre [Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:55:50 -0600]:

> In my particular case, however, it's mostly moot, as xmms-modplug
> doesn't create rar files.  I attempted at one point to use the free
> unrar instead of rar to get it to work, and discovered to my dismay
> that the free unrar isn't command-line compatible with rar, and
> doesn't open modern rar files.  I decided at the time that the free
> unrar was basically not ready for use, and abandoned any further
> attempts to use it.  This situation does not appear to have changed,
> and I am closing the bug.  At such time that the free unrar actually
> does serve as a drop-in replacement for reading rar files, feel free
> to file a new bug report, but as it stands, I am refusing to cripple
> the package's ability to deal with a non-free format just because it's
> non-free.  I suspect that this reasoning will extend to every other
> package that uses rar just for reading.

  Then you could just suggest 'unrar', which comes from the
  'unrar-nonfree' source package.

  (Note that for a brief period of time, the 'unrar' binary package was,
  as you mention, the free one, which couldn't open most files. That was
  reverted, and I don't think the 'unrar' binary will be pointing to the
  free one again unless it gains support for all rar files.)

  Cheers,

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