Bug#342369: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 8.1.0 RHEL / Debian incompatible packages

2005-12-13 Thread Anand Kumria
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 09:41:47AM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote:
 Tom Lane wrote:
  You've got that 100% backwards: you should be complaining to Debian that
  it's not their business to editorialize on the default setting.

Actually it *is* the business of Debian maintainers to determine what
works best for our users over and above what upstream decide.

Otherwise you'd get stuff like /usr/libexec, etc.

If Tom could present an actual reason why it shouldn't be enabled, I'm sure
Martin (Pitt) would be interested. But Stephen Frost and Peter
Eisentraut as well as others seem to be suggesting that Debian default is 
sane.

 I've forwarded this thread to Debian as a bug report. Their answer is
 they will discuss this setting again when 8.2 comes out. The full answer
 is here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=342369

The bug has been closed on Peter's advice.

Cheers,
Anand

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Bug#342369: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 8.1.0 RHEL / Debian incompatible packages

2005-12-13 Thread Stephan Szabo

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Anand Kumria wrote:

 On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 09:41:47AM +0100, Richard van den Berg wrote:
  Tom Lane wrote:
   You've got that 100% backwards: you should be complaining to Debian that
   it's not their business to editorialize on the default setting.

 Actually it *is* the business of Debian maintainers to determine what
 works best for our users over and above what upstream decide.

 Otherwise you'd get stuff like /usr/libexec, etc.

 If Tom could present an actual reason why it shouldn't be enabled, I'm sure
 Martin (Pitt) would be interested. But Stephen Frost and Peter
 Eisentraut as well as others seem to be suggesting that Debian default is
 sane.

In and of itself it's a good option.  However, choosing that option means
that Debian is saying that compatibility of data files with default
compiled PostgreSQL is not one of its primary concerns, which is a
reasonable statement, but it's still not the community's problem when
people can't move data to it.



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Bug#342369: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL 8.1.0 RHEL / Debian incompatible packages

2005-12-12 Thread Richard van den Berg
Tom Lane wrote:
 You've got that 100% backwards: you should be complaining to Debian that
 it's not their business to editorialize on the default setting.

I've forwarded this thread to Debian as a bug report. Their answer is
they will discuss this setting again when 8.2 comes out. The full answer
is here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=342369

For the Debian bug track system, the full discussion on the postgresql
mailing list starts here:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2005-12/msg00367.php

Thanks everyone for clearing this up.

Sincerely,

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