Bug#345409: New upgrade breaks login as there is no multikey anymore
* Denis Barbier [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060107 14:03]: On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:25:18AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: So please, if you break the default behavior of X to use shift-ralt as multikey then just allow the sysadmin to fix this bug by config!!! This setting was insane, Shift+AltGr was different from AltGr+Shift which is very confusing, so it is good to see that upstream dropped it. Of course we could put ralt_switch_multikey back in Debian, but if your keyboard has some spare keys, adding a compose: option would be much better. Spare keys are much better, but there are none on old keyboards. I also do not think it is very confusing, as it simple is the AltGr key with the shift key as modifier. E+shift is something different to shift+E, too. And as AltGr+Shift+anything is not bound to any meaning at all, there is nothing it could be confused too. Breaking the Shift-AltGr key as multikey is a major hassle, as suprisingly many people rely on it. I do not think it is sensible to make something an option instead of the default that many people rely on (so this is already a FAQ), while people not wanting it are unlikely to even notice it is activated. Hochachtungsvoll, Bernhard R. Link -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#345409: New upgrade breaks login as there is no multikey anymore
On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:25:18AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: So please, if you break the default behavior of X to use shift-ralt as multikey then just allow the sysadmin to fix this bug by config!!! This setting was insane, Shift+AltGr was different from AltGr+Shift which is very confusing, so it is good to see that upstream dropped it. Of course we could put ralt_switch_multikey back in Debian, but if your keyboard has some spare keys, adding a compose: option would be much better. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#345409: New upgrade breaks login as there is no multikey anymore
On Saturday 07 January 2006 13:56, Denis Barbier wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:25:18AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Of course we could put ralt_switch_multikey back in Debian, but if your keyboard has some spare keys, adding a compose: option would be much better. It could well be that I misunderstand the comment about ralt, but... Please leave support for ralt for composing characters. It is essential for Dutch users who normally have a keyboard with US layout but need to be able to easily type accented characters like é è ë ó ç. IMO ralt is by far the cleanest way to do that. My current keyboard settings are (in Sarge KDE): setxkbmap -option -option grp:switch,compose:ralt pgpBFbFIzrYtG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#345409: New upgrade breaks login as there is no multikey anymore
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 02:33:12PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 07 January 2006 13:56, Denis Barbier wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:25:18AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Of course we could put ralt_switch_multikey back in Debian, but if your keyboard has some spare keys, adding a compose: option would be much better. It could well be that I misunderstand the comment about ralt, but... Please leave support for ralt for composing characters. It is essential for Dutch users who normally have a keyboard with US layout but need to be able to easily type accented characters like é è ë ó ç. IMO ralt is by far the cleanest way to do that. My current keyboard settings are (in Sarge KDE): setxkbmap -option -option grp:switch,compose:ralt Hi Frans, this option is still supported, and there is no reason to drop it. The issue here is that historically Shift+AltGr was defined as a compose key, but this caused trouble, see #270235 for instance. Denis
Bug#345409: New upgrade breaks login as there is no multikey anymore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: xlibs Version: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-1 Severity: important Tags: sid The new upgrade of xlibs completely remove all references to ralt_switch_multikey what is the only way to type in combined characters and also all german chars. This stops my users from logging in over xdm or kdm as there are many characters in there password not available anymore. This breaks the package heavily. There is no alternative for the settings below. For your information, here is the relevant sniplet in my xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel cherrybluec Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariantnodeadkeys Option XkbOptionslv3:ralt_switch_multikey Option XkbSymbols pc/pc(pc105)+pc/de(nodeadkeys)+level3(ralt_switch_multikey)+inet(cherrybluec) EndSection So please, if you break the default behavior of X to use shift-ralt as multikey then just allow the sysadmin to fix this bug by config!!! - -- Package-specific info: Keyboard-related contents of X.Org X server log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log: (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor (**) | |--Device Generic Video Card (**) |--Input Device Keyboard (**) Option XkbSymbols pc/pc(pc105)+pc/de(nodeadkeys)+level3(ralt_switch_multikey)+inet(cherrybluec) (**) XKB: symbols: pc/pc(pc105)+pc/de(nodeadkeys)+level3(ralt_switch_multikey)+inet(cherrybluec) (**) Option XkbRules xorg (**) XKB: rules: xorg (**) Option XkbModel cherrybluec (**) XKB: model: cherrybluec (**) Option XkbLayout de (**) XKB: layout: de (**) Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys (**) XKB: variant: nodeadkeys (**) Option XkbOptions lv3:ralt_switch_multikey (**) XKB: options: lv3:ralt_switch_multikey (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled (**) |--Input Device Mouse (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/local/share/fonts. Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on /usr/local/share/fonts). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in /usr/share/fonts. - -- (II) LoadModule: nvidia (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.7174 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver (II) LoadModule: keyboard (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/keyboard_drv.o (II) Module keyboard: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) LoadModule: mouse (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o - -- Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES - -- (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (II) Initializing extension GLX (**) Keyboard: Core Keyboard (**) Option Protocol standard (**) Keyboard: Protocol: standard (**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30 (**) Option XkbRules xorg (**) Keyboard: XkbRules: xorg (**) Option XkbModel cherrybluec (**) Keyboard: XkbModel: cherrybluec (**) Option XkbLayout de (**) Keyboard: XkbLayout: de (**) Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys (**) Keyboard: XkbVariant: nodeadkeys (**) Option XkbOptions lv3:ralt_switch_multikey (**) Keyboard: XkbOptions: lv3:ralt_switch_multikey (**) Option XkbSymbols pc/pc(pc105)+pc/de(nodeadkeys)+level3(ralt_switch_multikey)+inet(cherrybluec) (**) Keyboard: XkbSymbols: pc/pc(pc105)+pc/de(nodeadkeys)+level3(ralt_switch_multikey)+inet(cherrybluec) (**) Option CustomKeycodes off (**) Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled (**) Option Protocol ImPS/2 (**) Mouse: Device: /dev/psaux (**) Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2 (**) Option CorePointer (**) Mouse: Core Pointer - -- (**) Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 (**) Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse: Buttons: 5 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard (type: KEYBOARD) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device NVIDIA Event Handler (type: Other) (II) Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting:
