Bug#467136: Bug#348046: TLS error occurs on Sarge too

2008-02-24 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:39:28AM +, Ronny Adsetts wrote:
> In that case, unless you receive contrary info, I'd suggest marking as 
> fixed in the Etch version of exim.

I'll wait for your findings for a few days and will then close for
4.63-17. Thanks for trying again.

Greetings
Marc

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Bug#467136: Bug#348046: TLS error occurs on Sarge too

2008-02-23 Thread Ronny Adsetts

Marc Haber said at 23/02/2008 11:12:

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:10:27AM +, Ronny Adsetts wrote:

Marc Haber said at 23/02/2008 10:18:

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:32:26AM +0100, Ronny Adsetts wrote:

This error is occurring with 4.50-8sarge2 on Sarge too. Judging by my
munin graphs on both sending and receiving side, there's no entropy on
the sending side. I noticed this error yesterday when there was
testing on a client's site that resulted in a couple of hundred emails
being sent to us in rapid succession.


Do you still see this on etch or lenny?


I've not yet upgraded the two mail servers in question to etch,


It would be a good idea to do so, I won't do any more debugging on
sarge.


Understood. At least one of the boxes will get upgraded this weekend.

/var/log/exim4/mainlog.8.gz:2008-02-15 17:00:43 1JQ24M-0005wR-EX TLS error 
on connection to mailgate.mylor.com [80.176.71.10] (gnutls_handshake): The 
Diffie Hellman prime sent by the server is not acceptable (not long enough).


That looks like an issue on the remote side.


It does indeed.

Whilst the error message above is not exactly the same as in my original 
report, it's close enough that it *may* be the same error with a more 
specific error message.


nack.


In that case, unless you receive contrary info, I'd suggest marking as fixed in 
the Etch version of exim. I'll try to test by firing of a few hundred emails 
from one box to the other once I have two exim servers on Etch and reopen if 
the problem shows up again.

Thanks.

Ronny
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Bug#467136: Bug#348046: TLS error occurs on Sarge too

2008-02-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:10:27AM +, Ronny Adsetts wrote:
> Marc Haber said at 23/02/2008 10:18:
> >On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:32:26AM +0100, Ronny Adsetts wrote:
> >>This error is occurring with 4.50-8sarge2 on Sarge too. Judging by my
> >>munin graphs on both sending and receiving side, there's no entropy on
> >>the sending side. I noticed this error yesterday when there was
> >>testing on a client's site that resulted in a couple of hundred emails
> >>being sent to us in rapid succession.
> >
> >Do you still see this on etch or lenny?
> 
> I've not yet upgraded the two mail servers in question to etch,

It would be a good idea to do so, I won't do any more debugging on
sarge.

> /var/log/exim4/mainlog.8.gz:2008-02-15 17:00:43 1JQ24M-0005wR-EX TLS error 
> on connection to mailgate.mylor.com [80.176.71.10] (gnutls_handshake): The 
> Diffie Hellman prime sent by the server is not acceptable (not long enough).

That looks like an issue on the remote side.

> Whilst the error message above is not exactly the same as in my original 
> report, it's close enough that it *may* be the same error with a more 
> specific error message.

nack.

> Thanks for your continued hard work on the exim package. :-).

You're welcome.

Greetings
Marc

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Bug#467136: Bug#348046: TLS error occurs on Sarge too

2008-02-23 Thread Ronny Adsetts

Marc Haber said at 23/02/2008 10:18:

On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:32:26AM +0100, Ronny Adsetts wrote:

This error is occurring with 4.50-8sarge2 on Sarge too. Judging by my
munin graphs on both sending and receiving side, there's no entropy on
the sending side. I noticed this error yesterday when there was
testing on a client's site that resulted in a couple of hundred emails
being sent to us in rapid succession.


Do you still see this on etch or lenny?


Hi Marc,

I've not yet upgraded the two mail servers in question to etch, however looking 
in the one mail server we do have on etch shows the following single log entry 
for the default exim log period (10 days or so):

/var/log/exim4/mainlog.8.gz:2008-02-15 17:00:43 1JQ24M-0005wR-EX TLS error on 
connection to mailgate.mylor.com [80.176.71.10] (gnutls_handshake): The Diffie 
Hellman prime sent by the server is not acceptable (not long enough).

/var/log/exim4/mainlog.8.gz:2008-02-15 17:00:43 1JQ24M-0005wR-EX TLS session 
failure: delivering unencrypted to mailgate.mylor.com [80.176.71.10] (not in 
hosts_require_tls)

/var/log/exim4/mainlog.8.gz:2008-02-15 17:00:52 1JQ24M-0005wR-EX => [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=mailgate.mylor.com [80.176.71.10]

Whilst the error message above is not exactly the same as in my original 
report, it's close enough that it *may* be the same error with a more specific 
error message.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do.

Thanks for your continued hard work on the exim package. :-).

Ronny
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Bug#467136: Bug#348046: TLS error occurs on Sarge too

2008-02-23 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:32:26AM +0100, Ronny Adsetts wrote:
> This error is occurring with 4.50-8sarge2 on Sarge too. Judging by my
> munin graphs on both sending and receiving side, there's no entropy on
> the sending side. I noticed this error yesterday when there was
> testing on a client's site that resulted in a couple of hundred emails
> being sent to us in rapid succession.

Do you still see this on etch or lenny?

Greetings
Marc

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Bug#348046: TLS error occurs on Sarge too

2006-10-16 Thread Ronny Adsetts
Hi.

This error is occurring with 4.50-8sarge2 on Sarge too. Judging by my munin 
graphs on both sending and receiving side, there's no entropy on the sending 
side. I noticed this error yesterday when there was testing on a client's site 
that resulted in a couple of hundred emails being sent to us in rapid 
succession. The first few were sent on a TLS connection, the remainder had this 
logged on the sending side:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep 1GZ8x3-Ix-Iv /var/log/exim4/mainlog.1
2006-10-15 17:35:01 1GZ8x3-Ix-Iv <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
H=mainoffice.theclub.chelseaartsclub.com (mainoffice) [172.17.0.189] P=esmtp 
S=612 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2006-10-15 17:42:36 1GZ8x3-Ix-Iv TLS error on connection to 
mail.amazing-internet.net [172.16.1.20] (gnutls_handshake): A record packet 
with illegal version was received.
2006-10-15 17:42:36 1GZ8x3-Ix-Iv TLS session failure: delivering 
unencrypted to mail.amazing-internet.net [172.16.1.20] (not in 
hosts_require_tls)
2006-10-15 17:42:39 1GZ8x3-Ix-Iv => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=dnslookup 
T=remote_smtp H=mail.amazing-internet.net [172.16.1.20]
2006-10-15 17:42:39 1GZ8x3-Ix-Iv Completed

This on the receiving side:

2006-10-15 17:42:39 1GZ94O-0003t2-T3 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
H=monolith.theclub.chelseaartsclub.com [172.17.0.16] P=esmtp S=822 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
2006-10-15 17:42:39 1GZ94O-0003t2-T3 => /dev/null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
R=ldap_aliases T=**bypassed**
2006-10-15 17:42:39 1GZ94O-0003t2-T3 Completed

Plus lots of these logged on the receiving side:

2006-10-15 17:39:59 TLS error on connection from 
monolith.theclub.chelseaartsclub.com [172.17.0.16] (gnutls_handshake): timed out

So it looks like entropy again is the problem.

A quick google brings up a thread [1] that suggest use of /dev/urandom would 
not be a big deal is some cases. Not sure whether that it feasible from within 
exim though and I suspect not.

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/help-gnutls@gnu.org/msg00323.html

Is the problem with how greedy gnutls is for random data or in how exim uses 
gnutls?

Ronny
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