Bug#378959: debian-installer: needs option to bypass network config dialog

2006-07-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 24 July 2006 19:36, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> I can name a few people who have a (as in, one) computer, but no
> Internet connection; there is also the case of some DSL authentication
> and/or network protocols that d-i cannot currently handle. Not only
> experts will hit this type of thing, and a CD-based install should Just
> Work there, without trying to reach the network if that is not
> required.

This was an issue with Beta2 but is very much possible again with Beta3.
The installer _will_ by default ask you to configure a network interface 
if it finds one, but you can decline to do so and do an install without 
any network connection.


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Bug#378959: debian-installer: needs option to bypass network config dialog

2006-07-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 11:35:08AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> zero79 wrote:
> > d-i assumes that the user always wants to bring up a network connection
> > during installation.  sometimes this is not desirable; for example 
> > when using the rescue mode or when doing a cd or dvd install.
> > 
> > so the problem is that the d-i network config dialog forces the user to 
> > select at least one of the network adapters to continue (cancel just 
> > brings up the same dialog).  to bypass network config, i have to select 
> > one of the network interfaces, then wait for it to not configure.  then 
> > i can opt to skip network config.   i suggest that there be a button
> > that allows the user to skip the network config from the network 
> > interface selection dialog.
> 
> Avoiding network configuration is something only an expert should need
> or want to do.

I disagree. It makes setting up computers for which there is no network
connection or for which d-i cannot handle the network setup, needlessly
hard.

I can name a few people who have a (as in, one) computer, but no
Internet connection; there is also the case of some DSL authentication
and/or network protocols that d-i cannot currently handle. Not only
experts will hit this type of thing, and a CD-based install should Just
Work there, without trying to reach the network if that is not required.

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Bug#378959: debian-installer: needs option to bypass network config dialog

2006-07-24 Thread Joey Hess
zero79 wrote:
> d-i assumes that the user always wants to bring up a network connection
> during installation.  sometimes this is not desirable; for example 
> when using the rescue mode or when doing a cd or dvd install.
> 
> so the problem is that the d-i network config dialog forces the user to 
> select at least one of the network adapters to continue (cancel just 
> brings up the same dialog).  to bypass network config, i have to select 
> one of the network interfaces, then wait for it to not configure.  then 
> i can opt to skip network config.   i suggest that there be a button
> that allows the user to skip the network config from the network 
> interface selection dialog.

Avoiding network configuration is something only an expert should need
or want to do. If you boot the installer in expert mode, you can simply
skip over the network configuration step in the menu; unless you choose
some other later menu item that requires a configured network you can
complete the install without performing the network configuration step.

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Bug#378959: debian-installer: needs option to bypass network config dialog

2006-07-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 06:23:41PM -0400, zero79 wrote:
> 
> so the problem is that the d-i network config dialog forces the user to 
> select at least one of the network adapters to continue (cancel just 
> brings up the same dialog).  to bypass network config, i have to select 
> one of the network interfaces, then wait for it to not configure.  then 
> i can opt to skip network config.   i suggest that there be a button
> that allows the user to skip the network config from the network 
> interface selection dialog.

Does adding the bootparamater
   netcfg/disable_dhcp=true
help with what you want?


Geert Stappers


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Bug#378959: debian-installer: needs option to bypass network config dialog

2006-07-19 Thread zero79
Package: debian-installer
Severity: normal


d-i assumes that the user always wants to bring up a network connection
during installation.  sometimes this is not desirable; for example 
when using the rescue mode or when doing a cd or dvd install.

so the problem is that the d-i network config dialog forces the user to 
select at least one of the network adapters to continue (cancel just 
brings up the same dialog).  to bypass network config, i have to select 
one of the network interfaces, then wait for it to not configure.  then 
i can opt to skip network config.   i suggest that there be a button
that allows the user to skip the network config from the network 
interface selection dialog.

i used the latest etch d-i installer available at 
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer.

thank you for your consideration.

mike gilbert

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