Bug#380731: [php-maint] Bug#380731: understanding and kwow your place

2010-03-01 Thread Pierre Joye
HI,

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:49 AM, sean finney sean...@debian.org wrote:
 hi pierre,

 i'd like to point out that while some of us have been making active
 efforts to reach out and cooperate, your hyperbole makes it it very
 difficult and demotivating to continue doing so.  fwiw, i also hope
 the people on our end of the fence keep the level of rhetoric down.

Agreed.

 as for your opinions on the suhosin patch, libgd, embedded timezone
 data, etc--they may all have valid arguments behind them, but this is
 neither the place nor the approach/tone for approaching them.  if you
 want to push for some kind of reconciliation, please bring it up in a
 constructive form on the pkg-php mailing list or a seperate bug report.

That has been done already, for what I can do there is even an open
report about GD (which is solved as of 5.3.0+ :).

 for everyone else, this is a bug report about the embedded sapi and
 nothing else, so please keep anything unrelated to this out of the
 bug report.  as it is i'm already considering trashing the bug report
 and opening a new one because of all the bad blood.  in the meantime
 please refer to my previous post (#50) for what our current position
 on this is (no time to do so, possible technical concerns, someone else
 will have to do the legwork and it will be after squeeze at soonest).

About embed, I also think it is prematur to bring it to a stable
package. It needs some changes to be useful (for ex. split init
functions so it can be used with embedded server more efficiently).
Maybe a good start would be to contribute directly to PHP and add some
tests for this SAPI. Once we reached a stable state, distros can then
consider to bring it to their users.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org



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Bug#380731: [php-maint] Bug#380731: understanding and kwow your place

2010-02-28 Thread sean finney
hi pierre,

i'd like to point out that while some of us have been making active
efforts to reach out and cooperate, your hyperbole makes it it very
difficult and demotivating to continue doing so.  fwiw, i also hope
the people on our end of the fence keep the level of rhetoric down.

as for your opinions on the suhosin patch, libgd, embedded timezone
data, etc--they may all have valid arguments behind them, but this is
neither the place nor the approach/tone for approaching them.  if you
want to push for some kind of reconciliation, please bring it up in a
constructive form on the pkg-php mailing list or a seperate bug report.

for everyone else, this is a bug report about the embedded sapi and
nothing else, so please keep anything unrelated to this out of the
bug report.  as it is i'm already considering trashing the bug report
and opening a new one because of all the bad blood.  in the meantime
please refer to my previous post (#50) for what our current position
on this is (no time to do so, possible technical concerns, someone else
will have to do the legwork and it will be after squeeze at soonest).

sean


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