Bug#390862: [Pkg-xen-devel] Re: Bug#390862: -bigmem version of xen kernels is really needed

2006-12-13 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 02:18:01PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:54:31PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
  
  What about idea not to *add* pae versions of xen kernels, but to *replace* 
  non-pae versions with pae versions?
  
  Rationale:
  
  - not increase in archive size or linux-2.6 package build time,
  
  - this will improve compatimility with other distros (consider scenario 
  when running FC or RHEL in domU; these distros do ship only pae xen 
  kernels, according to 
  http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-xen-devel/2006-December/000998.html)
 
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstartFC6
 
 Any x86_64, or ia64 CPU is supported for running para-virtualized guests.
 To run i386 guests requires a CPU with the PAE extension.
 
 So FC6 is PAE only, and latest update to FC5 also switched to PAE xen
 kernel.
 
 RHEL5 will be PAE only too.
 
 I don't know what Suse uses..
 

https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhelv5-beta-list/2006-December/msg00068.html

the decision to only support PAE capable hosts was made at the end of the
FC5 cycle. The majority (if not all)  of server in customer
datacenters/environments are PAE capable today and the only edge case for
non-PAE support would have been older laptops which do not yet have PAE
capable processors.  It also would have been an additional burden for QA/QE
to test/certify older non-PAE capable servers.  As the use case for Xen is
certainly geared towards servers and not laptops this made a lot of sense.

-- Pasi
   
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Bug#390862: [Pkg-xen-devel] Re: Bug#390862: -bigmem version of xen kernels is really needed

2006-12-12 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:54:31PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
 
 What about idea not to *add* pae versions of xen kernels, but to *replace* 
 non-pae versions with pae versions?
 
 Rationale:
 
 - not increase in archive size or linux-2.6 package build time,
 
 - this will improve compatimility with other distros (consider scenario 
 when running FC or RHEL in domU; these distros do ship only pae xen 
 kernels, according to 
 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-xen-devel/2006-December/000998.html)


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraXenQuickstartFC6

Any x86_64, or ia64 CPU is supported for running para-virtualized guests.
To run i386 guests requires a CPU with the PAE extension.

So FC6 is PAE only, and latest update to FC5 also switched to PAE xen
kernel.

RHEL5 will be PAE only too.

I don't know what Suse uses..

-- Pasi
 
 - pae kernels are ok for any x86 machines; slowdown caused by enabling pae 
 on machines with less than 3.%G of memory, if any at all, is hardly 
 measurable on machines where using xen makes sence (anyone using xen on 
 Pentium-I with 128M of ram?)



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