Bug#394594: texlive-context: Context is approx 45 versions out of date

2006-10-21 Thread Mike Bird
Package: texlive-context
Version: 2005.dfsg.2-1
Severity: important

Both the testing (2005.dfsg.2-1) and the new unstable (...2-2)
versions of texlive-context are based on the 2005.10.27 version
of ConTeXt which is 45 versions out of date as of this writing.

I had been struggling with context in Etch for a week and found
it strange that many of the examples on the website, wiki, and
mailing lists could not possibly work with the ConTeXt I have.

Hopefully a new version can be picked up from
  http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm
before Etch freeze as the current Debian texlive-context
package seems to serve no useful purpose.

I note that the new ...2-2 version includes three new
files - supp-{pdf,mpe,mis}.tex - but all else is October 2005
or older.  Perhaps an update script is broken?

-- Package-specific info:
If you report an error when running one of the TeX-related binaries 
(latex, pdftex, metafont,...), or if the bug is related to bad or wrong
output, please include a MINIMAL example input file that produces the
error in your report. Don't forget to also include minimal examples of
other files that are needed, e.g. bibtex databases. Often it also helps
to include the logfile. Please, never send included pictures!

If your example file isn't short or produces more than one page of
output (except when multiple pages are needed to show the problem),
you can probably minimize it further. Instructions on how to do that
can be found at

http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini-en.html (english)

or 

http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini.html (german)

##
minimal input file


##
other files

##
 List of ls-R files

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1187 2006-10-20 18:50 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 2006-10-19 00:15 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R -> 
/var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXMFMAIN
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2006-10-19 00:16 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R -> 
/var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2006-10-19 00:16 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R -> 
/var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE
##
 Config files
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2006-10-19 00:15 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf -> 
/etc/texmf/texmf.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5535 2006-10-20 12:47 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7721 2006-10-20 17:53 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4231 2006-10-20 12:47 
/var/lib/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-2-686
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages texlive-context depends on:
ii  libxml-parser-perl 2.34-4.2  Perl module for parsing XML files
ii  perl-tk1:804.027-7   Perl module providing the Tk graph
ii  texlive-base   2005.dfsg.2-1 TeX Live: Essential programs and f
ii  texlive-common 2005.dfsg.2-1 TeX Live: Base component
ii  texlive-metapost   2005.dfsg.2-1 TeX Live: MetaPost (and Metafont) 
ii  texlive-pdfetex2005.dfsg.2-1 TeX Live: pdfTeX

texlive-context recommends no packages.

Versions of packages tex-common depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.5  Debian configuration management sy
ii  ucf   2.0015 Update Configuration File: preserv

Versions of packages texlive-context is related to:
pn  tetex-base (no description available)
pn  tetex-bin  (no description available)
pn  tetex-extra(no description available)

-- debconf information:
  tex-common/check_texmf_wrong:
  tex-common/check_texmf_missing:


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Bug#394594: texlive-context: Context is approx 45 versions out of date

2006-10-22 Thread Norbert Preining
severity 394594 wishlist
retitle 394594 please include current context
thanks


Hi Mike!

On Sam, 21 Okt 2006, Mike Bird wrote:
> Both the testing (2005.dfsg.2-1) and the new unstable (...2-2)
> versions of texlive-context are based on the 2005.10.27 version
> of ConTeXt which is 45 versions out of date as of this writing.

Yes, we know. What we ship are Debian packages of TeX Live 2005, and
this ships this version.

Maybe I come around to update ConTeXt, but this is a non-trivial task,
and I am not sure if I want this.

Of course it would be better if someone steps forward and creates a
debian packages context, which is independent of the texlive packages,
and can be updated regulary. Would be nice...

> Hopefully a new version can be picked up from
>   http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm
> before Etch freeze as the current Debian texlive-context
> package seems to serve no useful purpose.

Very unlikely, sorry. The context in 2005 *DOES* work for many people
and many things, of course new functionality introduced later will not
work. If you need this new functionality, please
- either step forward and create/maintain a Debian context package,
  we will happily help you in this!!!
- put the updated context files into your /usr/local/share/texmf tree

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#394594: texlive-context: Context is approx 45 versions out of date

2006-10-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Mike!

On Sam, 21 Okt 2006, Mike Bird wrote:
> of ConTeXt which is 45 versions out of date as of this writing.

I am preparing a context package for Debian. Could you give it a try
and/or send me some test documents?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#394594: texlive-context: Context is approx 45 versions out of date

2006-10-22 Thread Mike Bird
On Sunday 22 October 2006 07:05, Norbert Preining wrote:
> I am preparing a context package for Debian. Could you give it a try
> and/or send me some test documents?

Norbert,

I am an experienced programmer but new to tex, metafont, and missing
ligatures.  If such a person can be of any use in testing your new
context package then it would be my pleasure.

Thanks for all that you do for Debian.

--Mike Bird


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Bug#394594: texlive-context: Context is approx 45 versions out of date

2006-10-22 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Mike!

On Son, 22 Okt 2006, Mike Bird wrote:
> I am an experienced programmer but new to tex, metafont, and missing
> ligatures.  If such a person can be of any use in testing your new
> context package then it would be my pleasure.

Great, if you are an experienced programmer than it is perfect: Short
howto:

Please add a line
deb http://www.tug.org/texlive/Debian/ context/
to your 
/etc/apt/sources
file. Then call 
apt-get (or aptitude) update 
After this, please remove texlive-context:
apt-get (or aptitude) --purge remove texlive-context
(in case you had texlive-full installed, this has to go, too, but this
is not important, as it is only a meta packages, keep all other
packages). After this, install context
apt-get (or aptitude) install context
>From then on, please test with various documents, running texexec, and
tell me please how is it going. Thanks a lot!

Best wishes

Norbert

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