Bug#401007: The installer should mention ...
Op 30-11-2006 om 15:39 schreef Vincent McIntyre: > > I was not asked to configure the mail system, but exim4 was installed with > the 'local delivery' configuration. Shouldn't the installer mention this? > Perhaps I missed the message. There where some postings on the Debian-installer mailinglist to make the installation easier. I can image that they are succeeding in it. Back to your question: > Shouldn't the installer mention this? I don't understand what you are aiming for ... Pick one from: * The installer should mention with which technology it comes. * The installer should mention with which M.T.A. it comes. * The installer should mention for what the Mail Transfer Agent is configured. or rephrase your question into something that leads to a better installer. Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#401007: The installer should mention ...
Please understand that I think the default config you've arrived at is good. I was just a bit surprised that the exim4 step was "missing"; when it didn't show up I thought something was amiss. I understand the wish not to bother people with the questions about MTA configuration, these can be difficult to comprehend and answer correctly, even for experienced admins who are new to Debian. (I also recognize that writing the questions in a translation-friendly way is at least 10 times more difficult than reading them). And it's time for etch to go out the door, so I don't wish to introduce delay. Shouldn't the installer mention this? I don't understand what you are aiming for ... I'm mainly interested to know that an MTA is running at all. I just like to worry about what services I have going, I guess. But can I be greedy and pick two options? * The installer should mention with which M.T.A. it comes. * The installer should mention for what the Mail Transfer Agent is configured Perhaps an information screen in the installer could explain: I've just set up your Mail Transfer Agent, $MTA. At present it is set up for '$MTA_MODE', i.e. to $MTA_MODE_EXPLAIN. If you want to change this, you will need to reconfigure $MTA with $MTA_CONFIG_PROGRAM. [OK] For the present case this would come out as, e.g. I've just set up your Mail Transfer Agent, exim4. At present it is set up for 'local delivery', i.e. to deliver mail only to other users on this computer. If you want to change this, you will need to reconfigure exim4 with dpkg-reconfigure exim4. [OK] (I'm not actually sure what to use for reconfiguration) Possibly this screen could go in at medium priority, but I don't think it hurts to show this much to all users. The above would certainly have satisfied me. It's probably not worth adding an option to allow installers to fiddle with the settings at this point, I find I always have to tweak things later anyway. Another way to help this issue would be to mention the nice new default setting in the "What's new" section of the Release Notes. I'm thinking about a patch to send to debian-doc at the moment, but feel free to trump me. Cheers Vince -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#401007: The installer should mention ...
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 11:33:28PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Shouldn't the installer mention this? > > > >I don't understand what you are aiming for ... > > I'm mainly interested to know that an MTA is running at all. > I just like to worry about what services I have going, I guess. exim4 does not listen on any public interfaces by default. > Perhaps an information screen in the installer could explain: > >I've just set up your Mail Transfer Agent, $MTA. >At present it is set up for '$MTA_MODE', i.e. to >$MTA_MODE_EXPLAIN. > >If you want to change this, you will need to reconfigure $MTA >with $MTA_CONFIG_PROGRAM. > >[OK] > > For the present case this would come out as, e.g. > >I've just set up your Mail Transfer Agent, exim4. >At present it is set up for 'local delivery', i.e. to >deliver mail only to other users on this computer. > >If you want to change this, you will need to reconfigure >exim4 with dpkg-reconfigure exim4. > >[OK] > > (I'm not actually sure what to use for reconfiguration) > > Possibly this screen could go in at medium priority, but I don't > think it hurts to show this much to all users. The above would > certainly have satisfied me. It's probably not worth adding an > option to allow installers to fiddle with the settings at this > point, I find I always have to tweak things later anyway. This is, IMO, what the release notes are for. It is mandatory to read them. Additionally, if exim4 shows a screen like this, a lot of other packages might want to do the same, ending up with a truckload of useless info screens that are not read anyway. If such a screen needs to be shown, this should be the installer's job. Please note that this bug is not an installer bug any more, it has been reassigned. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things."Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
