Bug#405523: Horrible lame BEEPing scares away all the new users!

2007-01-04 Thread Rafal Maj
Package: readline-common
Version: 5.2-1
Severity: grave

This is a TERRIBLE mistake! We scare away the new users.


By default the shell (bash) and some console programs make beeping
sounds in some conditions.

You might not realize, but for newbie users this is
1. horrible irritating, when one have a loud PC speaker
2. impossible to fix yet (he just starts to learn debian, linux, console)

beep. Huh? BEEP. How do I turn that off? BP Oh my god, lets go
back to windoBEEP! quick!

Advanced user will turn it back on in seconds.

Newbiew will be annoyed for it for days. Remember not everyone is as
advanced in Linux as You, and pissing off the new user at first
occassion is not good.

Smack in the head is NOT a good way to start a date.


For example fix this, as Debian Devel suggested:

Cyis raf256: appears the set bell-style none is actually in
/usr/share/readline/inputrc but commented out

Please stop scarring away new users!

Thanks.

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RafaƂ Maj
www.Raf256.org C++





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Bug#405523: Horrible lame BEEPing scares away all the new users!

2007-01-04 Thread Stephen Gran
severity 405523 normal
kthxbye

This one time, at band camp, Rafal Maj said:
 Package: readline-common
 Severity: grave

You are kidding.

 By default the shell (bash) and some console programs make beeping
 sounds in some conditions.

I think this should be wishlist at best, but it is certainly not RC.
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Bug#405523: Horrible lame BEEPing scares away all the new users!

2007-01-04 Thread Rafal Maj
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Stephen Gran wrote:

 This one time, at band camp, Rafal Maj said:
 Package: readline-common
 Severity: grave
 You are kidding.

Ok, lets change it to a wish.

 By default the shell (bash) and some console programs make beeping
 sounds in some conditions.
 I think this should be wishlist at best, but it is certainly not RC.

Ok.

We discussed some options on IRC how to solve it.
Quite few people agree  the sound is annoying.
Yet some others want to keep it the default.

One idea was to make the shound quiet in VT (much shorter, low pitch),
and to make simmilar changes in xterms.

Perhaps more documentation should be added to inform users about how to
fix it (like in man bash?)



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