Bug#406108: Busybox ifconfig should allow setting the MAC address
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:12:59AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > ifconfig is likely to disappear in the installer in favor of the 'ip' set > of commands. AFAICT the ip commands don't have an option to set a MAC > address. Not sure what the correct solution for this would be. ip supports changing the MAC address just fine: ip link set address NEWMAC dev eth0 And according to http://bugs.busybox.net/view.php?id=591 the feature should be also present in busybox. -- Miroslav Kure -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#406108: Busybox ifconfig should allow setting the MAC address
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:37:36PM +0100, Claus Fischer wrote: : On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:12:59AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: : : No, it should not. Memory is valuable in the installer environment and : : having ping does not add anything. As Geert already explained, you can : : use wget instead for basic connection testing. : : Not if the next router doesn't run any TCP services, : and you need to test the connection to the next router. Let me add some arguments: - A small installer is nice, an installer without ping is in some situations almost unusable In fact, a ping of the next router might even be considered standard procedure during network configuration. - The ping/ifconfig commands could perhaps be extern (on CD) - The situation where cable modems require a certain MAC address is not uncommon where I live - When you call support at your ISP, the standard questions are (a) what's your MAC address how do I find that out without ifconfig? (b) can you ping the next router? (c) is your interface configured? For a netinstall image that is dedicated to network installs, the basic networking tool to test connections (ping) is an absolute MUST. The wget workaround is deficient for various reasons: - it operates on TCP, not on IP level - TCP is often routed differently, masqueraded, etc. - many hosts in the connectivity chain do not offer TCP ports known to be open - TCP tests lack the features of ping -R - ping has timing information which is important to judge the quality of the connection - ping sends repeated packets which is important to judge the reliability of the connection In fact, the TCP test is an all-or-nothing test that is not helpful to localize any errors. There's a good reason for the existence of ping. That's why I think that a ping of the next router should be standard user-information of a network installer. Claus -- Claus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.clausfischer.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#406108: Busybox ifconfig should allow setting the MAC address
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:12:59AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: : No, it should not. Memory is valuable in the installer environment and : having ping does not add anything. As Geert already explained, you can : use wget instead for basic connection testing. Not if the next router doesn't run any TCP services, and you need to test the connection to the next router. Claus -- Claus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.clausfischer.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#406108: Busybox ifconfig should allow setting the MAC address
On Monday 08 January 2007 20:09, Claus Fischer wrote: > I recently used the debian-netinst installer with busybox > to rescue a botched system, and I got into trouble since > busybox' ifconfig command would not let me set the > MAC address of my ethernet card. > > My cable modem only accepts packets from a certain MAC > address, which I set in /etc/network/interfaces for > the working system: > >ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55 ifconfig is likely to disappear in the installer in favor of the 'ip' set of commands. AFAICT the ip commands don't have an option to set a MAC address. Not sure what the correct solution for this would be. > Also, busybox' ping should be enabled on the debian network > installer, to allow a user to check whether the right > interface is up on a multihomed box. No, it should not. Memory is valuable in the installer environment and having ping does not add anything. As Geert already explained, you can use wget instead for basic connection testing. Cheers, FJP pgp4JPas4TAjU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#406108: Busybox ifconfig should allow setting the MAC address
Package: busybox Version: 1.1.3-3 I recently used the debian-netinst installer with busybox to rescue a botched system, and I got into trouble since busybox' ifconfig command would not let me set the MAC address of my ethernet card. My cable modem only accepts packets from a certain MAC address, which I set in /etc/network/interfaces for the working system: ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55 Also, busybox' ping should be enabled on the debian network installer, to allow a user to check whether the right interface is up on a multihomed box. An account of the whole matter can be found in the thread started by my mail: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/01/msg00220.ht Claus -- Claus Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.clausfischer.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
