Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-06 Thread Mike Hore

Package: installation-reports

Boot method: Downloaded netinstall CD image, burnt CD.
Image version: 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso

Date: Wed Mar 7, 9am Australian Central Standard Time.

Machine: Apple G5 iMac, revision A.
Processor: PowerPC G5.
Memory: 250M
Partitions: (not relevant)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[E]

Can't proceed any further.

Comments/Problems:  The Ethernet connection is not detected.  This 
machine has an 10/100BASE-T Ethernet port.  I suspect the correct driver 
 hasn't been included in the netinstall image.


Since this is a netinstall and the network can't be initialized, I 
couldn't proceed beyond this point.


Cheers,  Mike.

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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 03:47, Mike Hore wrote:
> Comments/Problems:  The Ethernet connection is not detected.  This
> machine has an 10/100BASE-T Ethernet port.  I suspect the correct
> driver hasn't been included in the netinstall image.

After network detection failed, please switch to VT2 (on a PC this is 
alt-F2; I guess option-F2 or something similar on Macs) and enter the 
following command:
   lspci -nn | grep Ethernet
We need the PCI Id of that device, which looks like [:].

> Since this is a netinstall and the network can't be initialized, I
> couldn't proceed beyond this point.

This is not true. Netinst CDs contain the full base system, so you can 
complete an installation without a network card. You would end up with a 
fairly minimal, but completely functioning system.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-07 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Wednesday 07 March 2007 14:46, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 March 2007 03:47, Mike Hore wrote:
> > Comments/Problems:  The Ethernet connection is not detected.  This
> > machine has an 10/100BASE-T Ethernet port.  I suspect the correct
> > driver hasn't been included in the netinstall image.
> After network detection failed, please switch to VT2 (on a PC this is
> alt-F2; I guess option-F2 or something similar on Macs) and enter the
> following command:
>lspci -nn | grep Ethernet
> We need the PCI Id of that device, which looks like [:].

0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Shasta (Sun GEM)

is what another g5 iMac says.

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso
 
downloaded two hours ago works fine here on an old g3 iMac.


regards,
Holger


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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-07 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Frans,


On Wednesday 07 March 2007 03:47, Mike Hore wrote:

Comments/Problems:  The Ethernet connection is not detected.  This
machine has an 10/100BASE-T Ethernet port.  I suspect the correct
driver hasn't been included in the netinstall image.
After network detection failed, please switch to VT2 (on a PC this is 
alt-F2; I guess option-F2 or something similar on Macs) and enter the 
following command:

   lspci -nn | grep Ethernet
We need the PCI Id of that device, which looks like [:].


0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Shasta (Sun GEM) 
[106b:0051]





Since this is a netinstall and the network can't be initialized, I
couldn't proceed beyond this point.


This is not true. Netinst CDs contain the full base system, so you can 
complete an installation without a network card. You would end up with a 
fairly minimal, but completely functioning system.


OK, I guess that's right, if you know what you're doing, but with the 
little Linux I know I'm basically stuck.


Now I probably should have mentioned that BEFORE the Ethernet detection 
attempt, I got another message to say that some kernel modules could not 
be found, and should I proceed without them, and the installation might 
fail if I proceeded.  I assumed this was because I was attempting a 
netinstall, but for all I know that assumption might have been wrong.


Cheers,  Mike.

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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 March 2007 02:30, Mike Hore wrote:
> 0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Shasta (Sun GEM)
> [106b:0051]

According to this information, your NIC needs the sungem driver, which 
_is_ included in the installer and should be loaded automatically.

After the installer has failed to detect your NIC, please try the 
following:
- switch to VT2
- check if the sungem module is loaded ('lsmod | grep sungem')
- if it is, check dmesg for any messages about the NIC
- if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem')


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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-08 Thread Mike Hore

Hi again Frans,


On Thursday 08 March 2007 02:30, Mike Hore wrote:

0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Shasta (Sun GEM)
[106b:0051]
According to this information, your NIC needs the sungem driver, which 
_is_ included in the installer and should be loaded automatically.


After the installer has failed to detect your NIC, please try the 
following:

- switch to VT2
- check if the sungem module is loaded ('lsmod | grep sungem')


No output.


- if it is, check dmesg for any messages about the NIC


I didn't see any, but there were about 2 screenfuls of info and I didn't 
know how to stop it scrolling off.



- if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem')


FATAL: module sungem not found


So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry!

Cheers,  Mike.

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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-09 Thread peter green


> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Hore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 March 2007 01:40
> To: Frans Pop
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 -
> Ethernet not detected
> 
> 
> Hi again Frans,
> 
> > On Thursday 08 March 2007 02:30, Mike Hore wrote:
> >> 0001:03:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Shasta (Sun GEM)
> >> [106b:0051]
> > According to this information, your NIC needs the sungem driver, which 
> > _is_ included in the installer and should be loaded automatically.
> > 
> > After the installer has failed to detect your NIC, please try the 
> > following:
> > - switch to VT2
> > - check if the sungem module is loaded ('lsmod | grep sungem')
> 
> No output.
> 
> > - if it is, check dmesg for any messages about the NIC
> 
> I didn't see any, but there were about 2 screenfuls of info and I didn't 
> know how to stop it scrolling off.
> 
> > - if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem')
> 
> FATAL: module sungem not found
> 
> 
> So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry!
have you checked the md5sum against the one for the day your image is dated? 
(you can find older dailies by cutting back the image url to remove the current 
and everything before it and browsing manually from there)

i'm thinking this may be another case of a half and half download (half one 
days image half the next)





Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Friday 09 March 2007 09:11, peter green wrote:
> > > - if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem')
> >
> > FATAL: module sungem not found
> >
> >
> > So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry!
>
> have you checked the md5sum against the one for the day your image is
> dated? (you can find older dailies by cutting back the image url to remove
> the current and everything before it and browsing manually from there)
>
> i'm thinking this may be another case of a half and half download (half one
> days image half the next)

I think so too. I also downloaded the (ppc)-netinst on the 7th and just tried 
to load the sungem module from it, and it worked. So...


regards,
Holger


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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Hore

Hi Holger and others,


Hi,

On Friday 09 March 2007 09:11, peter green wrote:

- if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem')

FATAL: module sungem not found


So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry!

have you checked the md5sum against the one for the day your image is
dated? (you can find older dailies by cutting back the image url to remove
the current and everything before it and browsing manually from there)

i'm thinking this may be another case of a half and half download (half one
days image half the next)


I think so too. I also downloaded the (ppc)-netinst on the 7th and just tried 
to load the sungem module from it, and it worked. So...


I had some aborted downloads, but that time I switched to an ftp client 
and did it that way -- also OSX mounted the .iso file which I doubt 
would have happened if it was half-and-half -- but no, I didn't check 
the MD5.  I probably should just try again with a later build, but the 
server is so slow it takes me all night to download, and at the moment 
I'm trying a Gentoo install, so I'll leave it for a while.


Cheers,  Mike.

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Bug#413788: Daily Etch build fails to install on iMac G5 - Ethernet not detected

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Hore

Hi all,

I downloaded the March 9 daily build, (the server was reasonably fast 
this time), and it all works!  The sungem driver is definitely present.


So whatever happened before, it's OK now, so this bug can be closed.

(I'm still investigating Gentoo, but if I get into too much strife, I'll 
come back to Debian.)


Cheers,  Mike.



Hi,

On Friday 09 March 2007 09:11, peter green wrote:

- if it is not, try to load it manually ('modprobe sungem')

FATAL: module sungem not found


So it really looks to me like it isn't there, sorry!

have you checked the md5sum against the one for the day your image is
dated? (you can find older dailies by cutting back the image url to remove
the current and everything before it and browsing manually from there)

i'm thinking this may be another case of a half and half download (half one
days image half the next)


I think so too. I also downloaded the (ppc)-netinst on the 7th and just tried 
to load the sungem module from it, and it worked. So...


>I had some aborted downloads, but that time I switched to an ftp client
>and did it that way -- also OSX mounted the .iso file which I doubt
>would have happened if it was half-and-half -- but no, I didn't check
>the MD5.  I probably should just try again with a later build, but the
>server is so slow it takes me all night to download, and at the moment
>I'm trying a Gentoo install, so I'll leave it for a while.
>
>Cheers,  Mike.

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