Bug#415780: [Pkg-octave-devel] Bug#415780: octave2.1: Please upgrade gnuplot dependency from suggests: to recommends:
* Rafael Laboissiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-22 21:49]: > * Geraint Paul Bevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-22 15:56]: > > > I am only lurking and don't have a particularly strong opinion about > > this, but "recommends" seems to make more sense to me. > > > > Even running a batch job from a terminal it is still usually desirable > > for the plot function to work correctly. For example, the following > > should create a file "sin.ps" whether or not it is executed from a > > graphics-capable terminal: > > > > echo "t=[0:0.1:10]'; x=sin(t); plot(t,x); print -depsc2 \"sin.ps\""\ > > | octave > > Thanks for your opinion. Let us collect some more votes before deciding to > change the Suggests to Recommends. It seems that Recommends won. I will change this in SVN. -- Rafael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#415780: octave2.1: Please upgrade gnuplot dependency from suggests: to recommends:
* Geraint Paul Bevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-22 15:56]: > I am only lurking and don't have a particularly strong opinion about > this, but "recommends" seems to make more sense to me. > > Even running a batch job from a terminal it is still usually desirable > for the plot function to work correctly. For example, the following > should create a file "sin.ps" whether or not it is executed from a > graphics-capable terminal: > > echo "t=[0:0.1:10]'; x=sin(t); plot(t,x); print -depsc2 \"sin.ps\""\ > | octave Thanks for your opinion. Let us collect some more votes before deciding to change the Suggests to Recommends. -- Rafael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#415780: octave2.1: Please upgrade gnuplot dependency from suggests: to recommends:
I am only lurking and don't have a particularly strong opinion about this, but "recommends" seems to make more sense to me. Even running a batch job from a terminal it is still usually desirable for the plot function to work correctly. For example, the following should create a file "sin.ps" whether or not it is executed from a graphics-capable terminal: echo "t=[0:0.1:10]'; x=sin(t); plot(t,x); print -depsc2 \"sin.ps\""\ | octave -- Geraint Bevan http://www.mech.gla.ac.uk/~gbevan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#415780: octave2.1: Please upgrade gnuplot dependency from suggests: to recommends:
On 21/03/07, Rafael Laboissiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-21 15:59]:
> Seeing how gnuplot is the default plotting engine in Octave and the one
> that the Octave team works with the most, I think its priority as an
> octave dependence should be upgraded from suggests: to recommends:.
I am not sure I agree with you. Although I understand your arguments,
remember that Octave can be used without any graphical interface. To give
you an example, I use Octave mainly to process data in batches. I do my
serious graphics for publications with other software (namely R). Of
course, YMMV.
Let me provide a couple more arguments. Although it's certainly
possible to use octave without gnuplot (which is why the dependency
certainly shouldn't be depends:), I think it's a fair estimate that
most users of Octave will at some point want some degree of graphical
capabilities ("most" being the operative keyword here for having a
recommends: dependency). There certainly are other options, such as
plplot and whatnot, but Octave by default is configured to use
gnuplot; indeed, attempting a plot command in Octave without gnuplot
installed doesn't give an error about no plotting engine found, but
rather an error about gnuplot not found.
Since the core Octave devs work primarily with gnuplot compatibility
and seem to think it's the best tool for the job, I think the Debian
package should express these wishes more strongly.
Unless, of course, a majority of the DDs for Octave disagree...
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Bug#415780: [Pkg-octave-devel] Bug#415780: octave2.1: Please upgrade gnuplot dependency from suggests: to recommends:
Am Mittwoch, den 21.03.2007, 23:41 +0100 schrieb Rafael Laboissiere: > * Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-21 15:59]: > > > Seeing how gnuplot is the default plotting engine in Octave and the one > > that the Octave team works with the most, I think its priority as an > > octave dependence should be upgraded from suggests: to recommends:. I > > was quite surprised to see today that aptitude installed octave but that > > it didn't pull in gnuplot. > > I would like to hear the opinion of people lurking at the pkg-octave-devel > mailing list, both those involved in Debian and in upstream development. If > there is a consensus that Suggests: should be upgraded to Recommends:, I > will gladly do the change. I have no strong feelings either way. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#415780: octave2.1: Please upgrade gnuplot dependency from suggests: to recommends:
* Jordi Gutierrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-03-21 15:59]: > Seeing how gnuplot is the default plotting engine in Octave and the one > that the Octave team works with the most, I think its priority as an > octave dependence should be upgraded from suggests: to recommends:. I > was quite surprised to see today that aptitude installed octave but that > it didn't pull in gnuplot. I am not sure I agree with you. Although I understand your arguments, remember that Octave can be used without any graphical interface. To give you an example, I use Octave mainly to process data in batches. I do my serious graphics for publications with other software (namely R). Of course, YMMV. I would like to hear the opinion of people lurking at the pkg-octave-devel mailing list, both those involved in Debian and in upstream development. If there is a consensus that Suggests: should be upgraded to Recommends:, I will gladly do the change. -- Rafael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#415780: octave2.1: Please upgrade gnuplot dependency from suggests: to recommends:
Package: octave2.1 Version: 1:2.1.73-13 Severity: wishlist Seeing how gnuplot is the default plotting engine in Octave and the one that the Octave team works with the most, I think its priority as an octave dependence should be upgraded from suggests: to recommends:. I was quite surprised to see today that aptitude installed octave but that it didn't pull in gnuplot. -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) Versions of packages octave2.1 depends on: ii atlas3-base [liblapack.so.3 3.6.0-20.6 Automatically Tuned Linear Algebra ii fftw3 3.1.2-1 library for computing Fast Fourier ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libgcc1 1:4.1.1-21 GCC support library ii libgfortran14.1.1-21 Runtime library for GNU Fortran ap ii libhdf5-serial-1.6.5-0 [lib 1.6.5-3 Hierarchical Data Format 5 (HDF5) ii libncurses5 5.5-5Shared libraries for terminal hand ii libreadline55.2-2GNU readline and history libraries ii libstdc++6 4.1.1-21 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii texinfo 4.8.dfsg.1-4 Documentation system for on-line i ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-13 compression library - runtime octave2.1 recommends no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
