Bug#422307: Sparc installation problem.

2007-05-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 07 May 2007 03:54, Anthony Smith wrote:
 I had to figure out the hard way,  that to get to the shells during
 install you have to set debconf priority to low AND BOOT_DEBUG=3any
 other combination failed for me. I repeatedly tried BOOT_DEBUG=3 and
 never saw a menu where I could get to a shell until I used the low
 priority.

BOOT_DEBUG=3 has nothing to do with the ability to enter a shell during 
the installation; it only enables a shell during the boot of the 
installer.
priority=low is certainly not required to enter a shell. The easiest 
method is to use Go Back from almost any installer screen until you get 
to the main menu and then selecting the execute a shell option. I've 
added a sentence in the manual about using Go Back.

 I had to find the dd trick to get the disk label back to a usable
 state. Otherwise my 2GB harddrives appeared to be 200MB drives.

Known issue. It would be great if someone from the sparc community would 
really analyze the issue and provide a fix for it (probably in 
libparted).

 What are the command line partitioning tools ?? :-)  I know now, but to
 someone with no experience this would be daunting, if not
 unapproachable.

I don't think any are available for sparc by default. You can install 
fdisk as an optional component, but there is currently no easy option to 
do that. We hope to improve that for the next Debian release.

Thank you for your comments.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#422307: Sparc installation problem.

2007-05-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 07 May 2007 17:08, Frans Pop wrote:
 priority=low is certainly not required to enter a shell. The easiest
 method is to use Go Back from almost any installer screen until you
 get to the main menu and then selecting the execute a shell option.
 I've added a sentence in the manual about using Go Back.

For future reference: another useful option for serial console 
installations is the optional network-console component. See: 
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/sparc/ch06s03.html.en#network-console


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Bug#422307: Sparc installation problem.

2007-05-06 Thread Anthony Smith

Hey,

I wanted to resurrect my old SPARC to use as a web proxy/ dan's guardian 
server for my daughter and Debian supports my old box.


I tried etch sparc installer on the debian site but I am assuming that 
the known problem with the esp driver on the cd install is what almost 
made me quit and throw the old sparc into the trash bin. see here for info:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata - section sparc: 
CD installs for sparc32 may fail


I have however managed to get the machine installed from a Sarge CD and 
upgraded to Etch:

First)
I had to figure out the hard way,  that to get to the shells during 
install you have to set debconf priority to low AND BOOT_DEBUG=3any 
other combination failed for me. I repeatedly tried BOOT_DEBUG=3 and 
never saw a menu where I could get to a shell until I used the low priority.

Second)
I had to find the dd trick to get the disk label back to a usable state. 
Otherwise my 2GB harddrives appeared to be 200MB drives.

Third)
What are the command line partitioning tools ?? :-)  I know now, but to 
someone with no experience this would be daunting, if not unapproachable.


I am going to propose the following changes:
Could someone please upgrade the documentation to reflect the fact that 
on SPARC you have to use the correct combination of flags to get to the 
menu with the shells during install e.g.

boot: linux debconf/prioity=low BOOT_DEBUG=3
AND
put the trick with dd onto the partitioning page and
which tools to load and WHEN so that you can get to them
which partitioning tools to use from the command line AND in what 
order,  to discover and partition your disks.


Last, and this is the most important:
I was quite disappointed with the initial interaction with the installer.
Non of the documentation spells anything out if you happen to need to 
use the most bare bones nothing is working install.
I would think(yah! I know) that the serial interface would be the 
primary installation mechanism on anything other than a PC(i386 or 
x86_64) and the fact that it would just stop working with no 
notification or messages is quite scary.
Menu, Menu, Menu, lack of any response and no error or status messages 
should be avoided.


Before you wonder if I have a clue - I am a linux certified technical 
professional(and I code/hack for fun) that has been deploying linux for 
years but this is my first experience with anything debian based - if my 
clients don't use it I haven't had to learn it so no debian until now.


I'll be putting etch on a PC to give it a fair try since the sparc is a 
little older and more limited hardware.


Now if I can just find a couple if ethernet interfaces for the old sparc 
20 so that I can setup the firewall/proxy/dan's guardian.


Anthony

P.S.  Buona Fortuna! Ema.

Emanuele Rocca wrote:

Hello Anthony,

* Anthony Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [2007-05-04 15:36 -0600]:
  
 Image version: Sarge 



Can you try a recent version of the installer?
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/

Thanks.
ciao,
ema

  




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Bug#422307: Sparc installation problem.

2007-05-05 Thread Emanuele Rocca
Hello Anthony,

* Anthony Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [2007-05-04 15:36 -0600]:
  Image version: Sarge 

Can you try a recent version of the installer?
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/

Thanks.
ciao,
ema


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Bug#422307: Sparc installation problem.

2007-05-04 Thread Anthony Smith

Package: installation-reports

Boot method:  CD 
Image version: Sarge 
Date: 4 May 2007
Machine: Sparc 20 
Processor: SuperSparc II

Memory: 128M
Partitions: Old Solaris 8 partitions
I re-installed solaris 8 to make sure the hardware wasn't the problem.

Configuration: No video - I am using ttya in hyperterminal. No monitor, no 
keyboard.
I even removed the secondary framebuffer to make sure it wasn't the problem.

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O ]
Configure network:  [O ]
Detect CD:  [O ]
Load installer modules: [E ]
x Error while running 'modprobe -v sunlance' x
Doesn't see sunlance on first attempt - loads on next screen
Detect hard drives: [ ]
Partition hard drives:  [ ]
Install base system:[ ]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[ ]
Install tasks:  [ ]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Overall install:[ ]

Comments/Problems:
Problem 1:  If I boot like this boot: linux DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text well here...

ok ttya io
ok boot cdrom

SPARCstation 20 (1 X SuperSPARC-II), No Keyboard
ROM Rev. 2.25, 128 MB memory installed, Serial #7493007.
Ethernet address 8:0:20:72:55:8f, Host ID: 7272558f.



Rebooting with command: cdrom
Boot device: /iommu/sbus/[EMAIL PROTECTED],40/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],80/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:d  File and args:
SILO Version 1.4.9
\
boot: linux DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text

(process:158): ERROR **: Couldnt get/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/build/buildd/cdebco/bui
ld/buildd/cdebcon/build/buildd/cdebco



*However* if I boot the default linux
boot: linux
Uncompressing image...
Loaded kernel version 2.4.27

SCREEN NAME: Loading components of the Debian installer

SCREEN NAME: Configure the network
Domain name:  
xx   
xx gateway.2wire.net
xx   


*so it can see the gateway

*SCREEN NAME: Detecting Disks and all other hardware

There is a clear screen and then it just scrolls the cursor to the bottom 
left of the screen...sleeps for about 18secs and then the cursor scrolls 
down to the screen and settles in the bottom left 


Thanks for any help
Anthony




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