Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 19:16 -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:46:54AM -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: On 10/17/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it's not clearly in the domain of Xorg. x11-input makes sense, but then again, it's largely a system decision. OTOH, XKB can be used in the console, not just in X (hence why it's namespaced input.xkb and not input.x11.xkb or so), so that's why. Okay...so it's the domain of xkb? Even in that case, it seems there is a more appropriate place for it than hal. Also, as Michel mentions, everything else is already in hal-info, so eh. The latest release includes it, AIUI. Well, I really don't care where it comes from, as long as it's included. I think including it in our package until HAL gets it is probably the right move. More package churn on the server is probably going to be a fact of life for a while anyway. The reason I haven't really put much work in to input hotplug is because I've been focused on getting output autodetection in better shape. Once that's done, I'll get to this if no one else beats me to it. I think it would be better to listen to upstream and reassign this to hal-info... -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
reassign 446851 hal retitle 446851 Please package new upstream version which includes x11-input.fdi thanks On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 09:45:11AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 19:16 -0400, David Nusinow wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:46:54AM -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: On 10/17/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it's not clearly in the domain of Xorg. x11-input makes sense, but then again, it's largely a system decision. OTOH, XKB can be used in the console, not just in X (hence why it's namespaced input.xkb and not input.x11.xkb or so), so that's why. Okay...so it's the domain of xkb? Even in that case, it seems there is a more appropriate place for it than hal. Also, as Michel mentions, everything else is already in hal-info, so eh. The latest release includes it, AIUI. Well, I really don't care where it comes from, as long as it's included. I think including it in our package until HAL gets it is probably the right move. More package churn on the server is probably going to be a fact of life for a while anyway. The reason I haven't really put much work in to input hotplug is because I've been focused on getting output autodetection in better shape. Once that's done, I'll get to this if no one else beats me to it. I think it would be better to listen to upstream and reassign this to hal-info... Ok, Daniel's message didn't hit my inbox for some reason, so I just saw the bit about it being in the new hal version. I'm reassigning this to hal since it looks like all the .fdi files that hal itself ships belong to that package, and x11-input.fdi is in that category. Sjoerd can reassign it if I got it wrong. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 21:46 -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: On 10/16/07, Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK the reason it isn't installed by upstream is that it's just a stop gap until HAL ships its own file(s) for this. Shipping it in X packages now would go against this and might cause packaging churn down the road. Why would hal ship a file that is clearly in the domain of Xorg? Daniel? I just notice that with a couple of exceptions, all .fdi files seem shipped by HAL packages. It might make sense to include x11-input.fdi as an example though. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On 10/17/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it's not clearly in the domain of Xorg. x11-input makes sense, but then again, it's largely a system decision. OTOH, XKB can be used in the console, not just in X (hence why it's namespaced input.xkb and not input.x11.xkb or so), so that's why. Okay...so it's the domain of xkb? Even in that case, it seems there is a more appropriate place for it than hal. Also, as Michel mentions, everything else is already in hal-info, so eh. The latest release includes it, AIUI. Well, I really don't care where it comes from, as long as it's included. wt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:46:54AM -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: On 10/17/07, Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it's not clearly in the domain of Xorg. x11-input makes sense, but then again, it's largely a system decision. OTOH, XKB can be used in the console, not just in X (hence why it's namespaced input.xkb and not input.x11.xkb or so), so that's why. Okay...so it's the domain of xkb? Even in that case, it seems there is a more appropriate place for it than hal. Also, as Michel mentions, everything else is already in hal-info, so eh. The latest release includes it, AIUI. Well, I really don't care where it comes from, as long as it's included. I think including it in our package until HAL gets it is probably the right move. More package churn on the server is probably going to be a fact of life for a while anyway. The reason I haven't really put much work in to input hotplug is because I've been focused on getting output autodetection in better shape. Once that's done, I'll get to this if no one else beats me to it. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On 10/17/07, David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think including it in our package until HAL gets it is probably the right move. More package churn on the server is probably going to be a fact of life for a while anyway. The reason I haven't really put much work in to input hotplug is because I've been focused on getting output autodetection in better shape. Once that's done, I'll get to this if no one else beats me to it. Output hotplug on Intel 915 is pretty terrible right now. It doesn't appear to probe the connected monitor for the supported modes. However, starting Xorg with the monitor attached works like a charm. wt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 04:45:20PM -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: On 10/17/07, David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think including it in our package until HAL gets it is probably the right move. More package churn on the server is probably going to be a fact of life for a while anyway. The reason I haven't really put much work in to input hotplug is because I've been focused on getting output autodetection in better shape. Once that's done, I'll get to this if no one else beats me to it. Output hotplug on Intel 915 is pretty terrible right now. It doesn't appear to probe the connected monitor for the supported modes. However, starting Xorg with the monitor attached works like a charm. If you could open that as another bug, that'd be much preferrable to discussing it in this one. - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On 10/17/07, David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you could open that as another bug, that'd be much preferrable to discussing it in this one. Fair enough. wt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
Package: xserver-xorg-core Version: 2:1.4-3 Severity: important The file xorg-server-1.4/config/x11-input.fdi should be copied to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/. This will allow hotplug input to work as well as possible with the current version of xorg. wt -- Package-specific info: Contents of /var/lib/x11/X.roster: xserver-xorg /etc/X11/X target does not match checksum in /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum. X server symlink status: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-08-30 00:29 /etc/X11/X - /usr/bin/Xorg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1669976 2007-09-29 07:33 /usr/bin/Xorg Contents of /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.roster: xserver-xorg VGA-compatible devices on PCI bus: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 04) /etc/X11/xorg.conf unchanged from checksum in /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum. Xorg X server configuration file status: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1936 2007-09-27 23:57 /etc/X11/xorg.conf Contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf: # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type man xorg.conf at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section Files EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons true EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Synaptics Touchpad Driver synaptics Option SendCoreEventstrue Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol auto-dev Option HorizScrollDelta 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller Driver intel BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Modes 1280x768 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Default Screen InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse InputDevice Synaptics Touchpad EndSection Xorg X server log files on system: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39012 2007-06-18 20:20 /var/log/Xorg.1.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39012 2007-06-18 20:20 /var/log/Xorg.2.log -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42370 2007-10-15 23:03 /var/log/Xorg.0.log Contents of most recent Xorg X server log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log: X.Org X Server 1.4.0 Release Date: 5 September 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4-3) Current Operating System: Linux braindead 2.6.22-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:24:01 UTC 2007 i686 Build Date: 29 September 2007 04:19:41PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon Oct 15 21:01:23 2007 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor Generic Monitor (**) | |--Device Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse (**) |--Input Device Synaptics Touchpad (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 23:30 -0700, Warren Turkal wrote: Package: xserver-xorg-core Version: 2:1.4-3 Severity: important The file xorg-server-1.4/config/x11-input.fdi should be copied to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/. This will allow hotplug input to work as well as possible with the current version of xorg. AFAIK the reason it isn't installed by upstream is that it's just a stop gap until HAL ships its own file(s) for this. Shipping it in X packages now would go against this and might cause packaging churn down the road. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Bug#446851: xserver-xorg-core: please copy (and improve) x11-input.fdi to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
On 10/16/07, Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK the reason it isn't installed by upstream is that it's just a stop gap until HAL ships its own file(s) for this. Shipping it in X packages now would go against this and might cause packaging churn down the road. Why would hal ship a file that is clearly in the domain of Xorg? wt