Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
Sebastien Bacher wrote: I've just read this bug and I'm not convinced that you are taking the best choice for users. Looks like some installed the unofficial package, I didn't claim that :) they will get upgrade errors and blame it on Debian. That might be not true but users tend to blame it on the distribution. Adding the Replaces would be trivial, not have any side effect and allow those users to have It won't remove beryl? (Note it's Conflicts:, too. otherwise it really doesn't make sense). And which time the users who installed beryl will also complain, won't they? Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
Hi, I've just read this bug and I'm not convinced that you are taking the best choice for users. Looks like some installed the unofficial package, they will get upgrade errors and blame it on Debian. That might be not true but users tend to blame it on the distribution. Adding the Replaces would be trivial, not have any side effect and allow those users to have a better Debian experience Sebastien Bacher -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Rene Engelhard wrote: best choice for users. Looks like some installed the unofficial package, you meant to say unofficial and broken, right? As libsvg is per definition a broken package name. they will get upgrade errors and blame it on Debian. That might be not true but users tend to blame it on the distribution. Adding the Replaces Users blame bogus things on anyone. But *they* are doing bogus things by installing broken beryl packages and beryl did broken things by providing broken packages. would be trivial, not have any side effect and allow those users to have Indeed it's trivial. It won't remove beryl? (Note it's Conflicts:, too. otherwise it really doesn't make sense). And which time the users who installed beryl will also complain, won't they? That would be solvable by also providing libsvg, but... *shrugs* Grüße/Regards, René - -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHQ/su+FmQsCSK63MRAuV0AJ9Oh5LwCR4WbPOunPTuiXp0gXzPSgCeLxYW 4hQo0Afokwx71jRSnsb57SQ= =Lhhw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
severity 451945 important tag 451945 + wontfix thanks Hi, Claudio Saavedra wrote: Package: libsvg1 Version: 0.1.4-2 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable nonsense. When dist-upgrading unstable, the installation of this package fails due to conflicts with libsvg: Unpacking libsvg1 (from .../libsvg1_0.1.4-2_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsvg1_0.1.4-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libsvg.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libsvg Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsvg1_0.1.4-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) dijkstra:/home/claudio# dpkg -l libsvg Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++--- ii libsvg 0.1.4-7 Library for SVG Files There wasn't a libsvg binary package anywhere in Debian. Where did you get it from? I am not supposed to support upgrades from whatever contains unofficial (and broken, given the package names) debs.. (I see Ubuntu added a conflicts because of this, but...) Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
Package: libsvg1 Version: 0.1.4-2 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable When dist-upgrading unstable, the installation of this package fails due to conflicts with libsvg: Unpacking libsvg1 (from .../libsvg1_0.1.4-2_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsvg1_0.1.4-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libsvg.so.1.0.0', which is also in package libsvg Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsvg1_0.1.4-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) dijkstra:/home/claudio# dpkg -l libsvg Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++--- ii libsvg 0.1.4-7 Library for SVG Files -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=es_CL.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=es_CL.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Rene Engelhard wrote: ||/ Name Version Description +++--- ii libsvg 0.1.4-7 Library for SVG Files There wasn't a libsvg binary package anywhere in Debian. Where did you get it from? Ahaa. A discussion on IRC just revealved that it's a (broken) package from some beryl (Yeah, I want useless 3d eye-candy for my desktop) stuff. Grüße/Regards, René - -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHQYyo+FmQsCSK63MRAgzBAJ0YeJAPM+b3RO3mzjEKB+DQxuW8ewCfY3Ax PsvzxY1VdWmb7ODh9n80Kd8= =nljD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
El lun, 19-11-2007 a las 14:08 +0100, Rene Engelhard escribió: severity 451945 important tag 451945 + wontfix thanks Hi, Claudio Saavedra wrote: Package: libsvg1 Version: 0.1.4-2 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable nonsense. Thanks. Your attitude really moves me forward to continue reporting (yes, probably sometimes not actually) bugs in Debian. I probably chose a wrong severity, sorry for that, and thanks for the empathic answer. There wasn't a libsvg binary package anywhere in Debian. Where did you get it from? Ahaa. A discussion on IRC just revealved that it's a (broken) package from some beryl Acknowledged. It got probably installed eons ago before compiz was added to Debian unstable. FWIW, I fixed the problem by removing the broken package and 'apt-get -f install' did the rest. (Yeah, I want useless 3d eye-candy for my desktop) stuff. That was ranty and completely unnecessary. Claudio -- Claudio Saavedra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
Hi, Claudio Saavedra wrote: nonsense. Thanks. Your attitude really moves me forward to continue reporting (yes, probably sometimes not actually) bugs in Debian. I probably chose In this case it was obvious that this is not a bug at all as you easily could have seen that there never was a libsvg package in Debian. a wrong severity, sorry for that, and thanks for the empathic answer. This was not only the wrong severity, strictly speaking this ia *not a bug at all*, as there never was a libsvg package in Debian. People who use unofficial stuff (and stuff which broken packages, which libsvg obviously is, just judging from the package name, it does not follow Debian policy *AT ALL*) should know how to handle this and not report bugs if proper packages have problems with their unofficial packages. Ahaa. A discussion on IRC just revealved that it's a (broken) package from some beryl Acknowledged. It got probably installed eons ago before compiz was added to Debian unstable. FWIW, I fixed the problem by removing the broken package and 'apt-get -f install' did the rest. OK, good. (Yeah, I want useless 3d eye-candy for my desktop) stuff. That was ranty and completely unnecessary. No, it was necessary since I *DO* believe that compiz (and beryl) are just not useful except for eye-candy. Sorry for my harsh reply, but you produced a unneeded releae-critical bug on an important package. This caused extra work, first because RRC bugs should be fixed ASAP and second because I needed to find out where this broken libsvg package came from. It was not meant personally, though, but the bug report still remains not necessary at all. Grüße/Regards, René -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GnuPG-Key ID: 248AEB73 `- Fingerprint: 41FA F208 28D4 7CA5 19BB 7AD9 F859 90B0 248A EB73
Bug#451945: libsvg1: uninstallable due to conflicts with libsvg
El lun, 19-11-2007 a las 15:02 +0100, Rene Engelhard escribió: No, it was necessary since I *DO* believe that compiz (and beryl) are just not useful except for eye-candy. No, it is not. It is your personal opinion on an issue that's not directly related to the bug report. Sorry for my harsh reply, but you produced a unneeded releae-critical bug on an important package. This caused extra work, first because RRC bugs should be fixed ASAP and second because I needed to find out where this broken libsvg package came from. I understand. I am sorry to have caused extra work in a critical issue. Regards, Claudio -- Claudio Saavedra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
