Bug#461798: [Bug-ed] Bug#461798: warn earlier about readonly files

2008-01-22 Thread jidanni
 I would not agree that's a problem, and I would disagree that
 such a change should be made.
vi warns, emacs warns.
  1) Sometimes I edit a read only file, as a convenient way to
 do other sorts of operations on it.  Opening to read a
 read-only file is not an error
warning, not error.
  2) If and when I do try to write out changes to a read-only
 file, it's easy to deal with the write error by writing my
 changes out to a tmp file, quitting ed, and applying the
 changes some other way.
it usually is a big shock to me, and sometimes one discovers there is
no place permanent to write at all -- all that typing will disappear...
  3) ed is legacy software - most users and usages have been
 around a long time.  One should not tweak discretionary
 details of ed; fix real bugs, but leave the details that
 are cosmetic or a matter of opinion or fashion -alone-.
 Each non-essential change to ed breaks something or some
 usage.
OK, maybe
$ ed /etc/motd
355 readonly--adding this might break scripts, I don't know.
$ ed /etc/motdd
/etc/motdd: No such file or directory--but one could also remove
warnings like this, and the warning from vi. OK, you are the pros,
what do I know. Anyway, ed should still be around for the next 1
years, so might as well fix the places that might cause one to lose work.



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Bug#461798: [Bug-ed] Bug#461798: warn earlier about readonly files

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Jackson
jidanni wrote:
 vi warns, emacs warns.

Good for them.

 it usually is a big shock to me

After you too have used ed for 20 years,
it will no longer shock you.

 sometimes one discovers there is
 no place permanent to write at all

You don't need a permanent place; /tmp does fine
for the minute or two you need it.

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Bug#461798: [Bug-ed] Bug#461798: warn earlier about readonly files

2008-01-21 Thread Paul Jackson
 Did I mention that ed should warn earlier that a file is readonly?

I would not agree that's a problem, and I would disagree that
such a change should be made.
 1) Sometimes I edit a read only file, as a convenient way to
do other sorts of operations on it.  Opening to read a
read-only file is not an error
 2) If and when I do try to write out changes to a read-only
file, it's easy to deal with the write error by writing my
changes out to a tmp file, quitting ed, and applying the
changes some other way.
 3) ed is legacy software - most users and usages have been
around a long time.  One should not tweak discretionary
details of ed; fix real bugs, but leave the details that
are cosmetic or a matter of opinion or fashion -alone-.
Each non-essential change to ed breaks something or some
usage.

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  Programmer, Linux Scalability
  Paul Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.940.382.4214



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