Bug#474351: springgraph invocation syntax not properly documented

2008-05-11 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Le May 11, 2008 03:10:25 am Thijs Kinkhorst, vous avez écrit :
> On Sunday 11 May 2008 03:20, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> > I don't see why this wouldn't be a bug. Do you agree that a program's
> > manual page should document all normal ways to invoke the program?
>
> It does, and is even more clarified now in current svn.
Then what do you consider abnormal about piping to springgraph?

> Case is closed. 
I wonder if your courtesy manual was also closed too early.



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Bug#474351: springgraph invocation syntax not properly documented

2008-05-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sunday 11 May 2008 03:20, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> I don't see why this wouldn't be a bug. Do you agree that a program's
> manual page should document all normal ways to invoke the program?

It does, and is even more clarified now in current svn. Case is closed.


Thijs


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Bug#474351: springgraph invocation syntax not properly documented

2008-05-10 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Le May 10, 2008 05:25:58 pm Christoph Berg, vous avez écrit :
> This is not a bug, closing.

I don't see why this wouldn't be a bug. Do you agree that a program's manual 
page should document all normal ways to invoke the program?



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Bug#474351: springgraph invocation syntax not properly documented

2008-04-30 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Le April 30, 2008 03:32:10 pm Thijs Kinkhorst, vous avez écrit :
> On Saturday 5 April 2008 09:32, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> > Package: signing-party
> > Version: 1.0-1
> > Severity: important
> >
> > I never used springgraph before, but it looks like its invocation syntax
> > changed. It seems it now ignores file arguments and only uses stdin and
> > stdout. The manpage wasn't updated, and -h doesn't document what
> > springgraph does. I must have taken some 20 minutes to realize it wasn't
> > hanged but waiting for EOF.
>
> I do not follow a bit of what you mean.
>
> The man page has the following synopsis:
>   SYNOPSIS
>  springgraph [OPTIONS] < input-file > output-file.png
> which I think is quite clear about that it uses standard in and out.
Ah, OK. I red "springgraph [...] < input-file > [...]" as "springgraph [...] 
 [...]". Thanks and sorry about that. It's just that normal 
manpages don't mention specific ways to invoke the program, so I was 
confused.

This could be fixed by adding the general syntax
springgraph [OPTIONS]
and, if you wish, other possible combinations. But I think this is 
superfluous, just the general syntax should be fine. However, the manpage 
needs to explain where springgraph reads and writes. Alternatively, the 
program itself could be changed to handle arguments properly (like, say, grep 
and iconv). As I understand it, springgraph simply flushes arguments, which 
doesn't help to reduce confusion.
>
> The -h text, although not specifying how to supply input to the program,
> doesn't claim that springgraph accepts filename arguments.
Right, and I didn't write that. Thanks for fixing.
>
> You conclude that its invocation changed yet you've never used it before
> (???) and nothing in the help or manpage claims that you can pass filename
> arguments.
Not exactly, as I wrote, it *looked like* the syntax had changes. But yes, as 
I explained above, I was confused by the manpage.
>
> You file this as severity important. Right, how is you not reading the man
> page, or the help text not explicitly stating how to pass input, in any
> sense an important bug?
I wouldn't have written that the manpage wasn't updated if I hadn't checked 
it. Given your clarification, I do not think anymore that this is an 
important bug. I don't think I would be alone to be confused, but I suppose 
not everyone will be. IMO this is a normal bug.
>
> Please don't bother us again before at least trying to verify the bug you
> want to file and reading up on bug severities. Thanks for your effort
> though.
Please don't bother bug reporters with such requests again before at least 
trying to verify that your software is not responsible for their confusion 
and reading on courtesy. But thanks for your work anyway (honestly).



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Bug#474351: springgraph invocation syntax not properly documented

2008-04-30 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Saturday 5 April 2008 09:32, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> Package: signing-party
> Version: 1.0-1
> Severity: important
>
> I never used springgraph before, but it looks like its invocation syntax
> changed. It seems it now ignores file arguments and only uses stdin and
> stdout. The manpage wasn't updated, and -h doesn't document what
> springgraph does. I must have taken some 20 minutes to realize it wasn't
> hanged but waiting for EOF.

I do not follow a bit of what you mean.

The man page has the following synopsis:
  SYNOPSIS
 springgraph [OPTIONS] < input-file > output-file.png
which I think is quite clear about that it uses standard in and out.

The -h text, although not specifying how to supply input to the program, 
doesn't claim that springgraph accepts filename arguments.

You conclude that its invocation changed yet you've never used it before (???) 
and nothing in the help or manpage claims that you can pass filename 
arguments. You seem to know that some man page wasn't updated to behaviour 
that has been there all the time.

You file this as severity important. Right, how is you not reading the man 
page, or the help text not explicitly stating how to pass input, in any sense 
an important bug?

Please don't bother us again before at least trying to verify the bug you want 
to file and reading up on bug severities. Thanks for your effort though.

bye,
Thijs

p.s. I've left this pending because I did clarify the help text, which 
is "minor" at most.


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Bug#474351: springgraph invocation syntax not properly documented

2008-04-05 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Package: signing-party
Version: 1.0-1
Severity: important

I never used springgraph before, but it looks like its invocation syntax 
changed. It seems it now ignores file arguments and only uses stdin and 
stdout. The manpage wasn't updated, and -h doesn't document what springgraph 
does. I must have taken some 20 minutes to realize it wasn't hanged but 
waiting for EOF.



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