Bug#474632: Bug #474632: josm: Should not enter testing

2008-05-24 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andreas Putzo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080524 15:37]:
 when i opened this bug there was an upcoming Openstreetmap Web API release 
 under development but it wasn't clear when it will be ready and if the API
 will stay compatible. That's why we decided to keep josm out of lenny
 until some more information was available.
 It's now confirmed that the API will indeed be incompatible but chances
 are good that it will be deployed in june which would mean some weeks
 left for testing josm and maybe ship it with lenny.

In that case, josm should be allowed to enter testing now, so that we
can already exhibit (most of) josm some more testing.

Of course, it would be helpful if the old Web APIs could stay around for
~2 years - which could be done by having converters for the old vs new
api.


Cheers,
Andi
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Bug#474632: Bug #474632: josm: Should not enter testing

2008-05-21 Thread Andreas Putzo
Hi,

On May 21  20:00, Torsten Werner wrote:
 On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Giovanni Mascellani
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  while an out-of-date josm wouldn't work for anyone.
 
 every Flickr client, the google data api, instant messager client that
 talk proprietory protocols and probably more packages have the same
 problem but we ship them in testing and stable anyway. I still think
 your bug report is not valid. I have set debian-release on Cc: to get
 their opinion about this issue.

when i opened this bug there was an upcoming Openstreetmap Web API release 
under development but it wasn't clear when it will be ready and if the API
will stay compatible. That's why we decided to keep josm out of lenny
until some more information was available.
It's now confirmed that the API will indeed be incompatible but chances
are good that it will be deployed in june which would mean some weeks
left for testing josm and maybe ship it with lenny.

We can, however, expect more changes to the OSM API during lenny release
cycle. In the past, a new version has been deployed more or less every 6
month. So far, every change of the API was incompatible with no
transition period. Upstream stated that they currently do not want to
provide a stable API nor provide time for transitions.

Provided that the new API is ready in june we could likely ship a working
josm with lenny but we can expect its breakage after a few month as well.


Regards,
Andreas



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Bug#474632: Bug #474632: josm: Should not enter testing

2008-05-18 Thread Torsten Werner
Hi,

I do not think that the bug is valid. Requiring that josm/stable stays
compatible with future OSM-API versions is like requiring that
linux-image-*/stable and xorg/stable stays compatible with future
hardware. BTS, there is always a slight chance to get an updated
version of josm into a stable point release.

Cheers,
Torsten

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Bug#474632: Bug #474632: josm: Should not enter testing

2008-05-18 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Il giorno dom, 18/05/2008 alle 18.15 +0200, Torsten Werner ha scritto:
 I do not think that the bug is valid. Requiring that josm/stable stays
 compatible with future OSM-API versions is like requiring that
 linux-image-*/stable and xorg/stable stays compatible with future
 hardware. BTS, there is always a slight chance to get an updated
 version of josm into a stable point release.

I don't agree: an out-of-date linux or xorg continues to work well on
most of the cases (just a few people have new and unsupported hardware),
while an out-of-date josm wouldn't work for anyone.

I'd love very much to close this bug, but I don't think it would be wise
to do it. What would be the slight possibility you're talking about? Do
you think we have enough probability that Release Managers let an update
of an unknown package like josm enter an already released stable?
IANADD, so I can't do other than trust you, if you say that, but I'm
quite skeptical about this possibility. :-)

Regards, Giovanni.
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