Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Vincent Lefevre]

Hi,

On 2008-05-21 11:25:25 -0300, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
> Vincent, is it there a newer version of sxw2txt available, please? (or
> the one that I found is the latest one?)

I use my own version available on my web pages:

http://www.vinc17.org/unix/index.en.html#sxw2txt
http://www.vinc17.org/software/sxw2txt (for the Perl script itself).

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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Nelson A. de Oliveira]

Hi!

On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:47:15 +0200
Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was not entirely right. My foo.sxw document must be older.
> I opened it in OOo 2.4 and SO 7 and saved it under a different name
> (as sxw) and now I can convert it with odt2txt
> 
> The only difference I could easily spot, is that the new sxw archive 
> contains a file called "mimetype" now, while the original foo.sxw
> doesn't.

So it seems that we will need sxw2txt, since odt2txt won't convert some
old .sxw files, right?

Best regards,
Nelson


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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Michael Biebl]

David wrote:

Any other alternatives?



What about asking the maintainers of recoll and beagle about the solution
they use?

I do not use beagle because it devours memory, but I think it reads
OpenOffice. Regarding recoll, it also reads OpenOffice, is very nice 
and is much more featured than tracker, because it allows searching by
chain, stem expansion, etc; at the end of the day, it is a KDE application,
and KDE users do not mind being "confused" by features :-D  :-D


Never mind, I'm using both GNOME and KDE ;-)



I hope you have humour :-D , but the first sentence is a real suggestion
(investigating how beagle and recoll make it).


recoll seems to use some gross awk/sed/shell mix. Definitely not 
something I want to copy and maintain. (I'm also not sure if it handles 
all subletities of the ODF format correctly).


Cheers,
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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Michael Biebl]

Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

Hi!

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Then I must be doing something wrong:

$ odt2txt foo.sxw
Can't read from foo.sxw: Is it an OpenDocument Text?

foo.sxw bein a document created with StarOffice 7.0 (i.e. OpenOffice 1.x)


Here is one example:
http://people.debian.org/~naoliv/misc/478091.sxw

It was created using OpenOffice 2.4 however (are there differences in
creating .sxw using differente OO versions?)


I was not entirely right. My foo.sxw document must be older.
I opened it in OOo 2.4 and SO 7 and saved it under a different name (as 
sxw) and now I can convert it with odt2txt


The only difference I could easily spot, is that the new sxw archive 
contains a file called "mimetype" now, while the original foo.sxw doesn't.


Cheers,
Michael

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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Nelson A. de Oliveira]

Hi!

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then I must be doing something wrong:
>
> $ odt2txt foo.sxw
> Can't read from foo.sxw: Is it an OpenDocument Text?
>
> foo.sxw bein a document created with StarOffice 7.0 (i.e. OpenOffice 1.x)

Here is one example:
http://people.debian.org/~naoliv/misc/478091.sxw

It was created using OpenOffice 2.4 however (are there differences in
creating .sxw using differente OO versions?)

Best regards,
Nelson



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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Michael Biebl]

Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:

Hi again!

odt2txt (from the odt2txt package) seems to extract text from sxw (at
least I think that I am correctly testing it here; file says that the
document is "OpenOffice.org 1.x Writer document").

The final result isn't the same when using sxw2txt (some formatting
differences), but it works.
Can somebody confirm this, please?


Then I must be doing something wrong:

$ odt2txt foo.sxw
Can't read from foo.sxw: Is it an OpenDocument Text?

foo.sxw bein a document created with StarOffice 7.0 (i.e. OpenOffice 1.x)

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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Nelson A. de Oliveira]

Hi again!

odt2txt (from the odt2txt package) seems to extract text from sxw (at
least I think that I am correctly testing it here; file says that the
document is "OpenOffice.org 1.x Writer document").

The final result isn't the same when using sxw2txt (some formatting
differences), but it works.
Can somebody confirm this, please?

Thank you!

Best regards,
Nelson



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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[David]

>
> Any other alternatives?
>
>
What about asking the maintainers of recoll and beagle about the solution
they use?

I do not use beagle because it devours memory, but I think it reads
OpenOffice. Regarding recoll, it also reads OpenOffice, is very nice 
and is much more featured than tracker, because it allows searching by
chain, stem expansion, etc; at the end of the day, it is a KDE application,
and KDE users do not mind being "confused" by features :-D  :-D

I hope you have humour :-D , but the first sentence is a real suggestion
(investigating how beagle and recoll make it).

Thank you,

David

Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Nelson A. de Oliveira]

Hi people!

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, unoconv needs the complete openoffice.org up and running
>> (and an X server to host it). This may be a bit heavy for an indexing
>> solution.
>
> Hm, yeah, that's indeed a bit heavy weight ;-)
>
> Any other alternatives?

There is sxw2txt [1][2], that one day  was part of an ITP [3].
It looks very simple and from my tests here, it works properly.

(I am CCing Vincent Lefevre, who did some work on it.)
Vincent, is it there a newer version of sxw2txt available, please? (or
the one that I found is the latest one?)

I don't know if it's necessary to have a package just for a simple
Perl script (maybe it can be included inside another package,
odt2txt?), but we can think on a solution for this problem.

[1] 
http://www.sfr-fresh.com/unix/misc/lesspipe-1.53.tar.gz:a/lesspipe-1.53/sxw2txt
[2] http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~friebel/unix/less/sxw2txt
[3] http://bugs.debian.org/281351

Best regards,
Nelson



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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Michael Biebl]

Vincent Bernat wrote:



On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:11:19 +0200, "Rene Engelhard"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Seems like odt2txt can't handle OpenOffice 1.x documents, only ODF.

As the name already says. *odt*. ;-) Otherwise it'd say sxw2txt ;-)
What about unoconv as an alternative? (Ccing the unoconv maintainer)


Unfortunately, unoconv needs the complete openoffice.org up and running
(and an X server to host it). This may be a bit heavy for an indexing
solution.


Hm, yeah, that's indeed a bit heavy weight ;-)

Any other alternatives?


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On Wed, 21 May 2008 14:11:19 +0200, "Rene Engelhard"
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>> Seems like odt2txt can't handle OpenOffice 1.x documents, only ODF.
> 
> As the name already says. *odt*. ;-) Otherwise it'd say sxw2txt ;-)
> What about unoconv as an alternative? (Ccing the unoconv maintainer)

Unfortunately, unoconv needs the complete openoffice.org up and running
(and an X server to host it). This may be a bit heavy for an indexing
solution.




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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Michael Biebl]

Rene Engelhard wrote:

Hi,


Seems like odt2txt can't handle OpenOffice 1.x documents, only ODF.


As the name already says. *odt*. ;-) Otherwise it'd say sxw2txt ;-)
What about unoconv as an alternative? (Ccing the unoconv maintainer)


Interesting.

What are the ups and downs comparing unoconv / odt2txt?

Cheers,
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[Rene Engelhard]

Hi,

> Seems like odt2txt can't handle OpenOffice 1.x documents, only ODF.

As the name already says. *odt*. ;-) Otherwise it'd say sxw2txt ;-)
What about unoconv as an alternative? (Ccing the unoconv maintainer)

Regards,

Rene



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Bug#478091: [tracker] Use odt2txt instead of the removed o3read

[Michael Biebl]

David wrote:

Package: tracker
Version: 0.6.6-1+b1
Severity: serious

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---

tracker uses o3read to extract the text of OpenOffice documents. In fact,
o3read is in the recommendation list of tracker.

Nevertheless, o3read has been dropped from the repository in favour of
odt2txt: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477311(furthermore,
o3read does not work with the new OpenOffice format).



Seems like odt2txt can't handle OpenOffice 1.x documents, only ODF.

This would be a regression to o3read, which can handle both.

I don't know, to what degree o3read supports ODF, at least
unzip -p file.odt content.xml | o3totxt
seems to work just fine.

So, odt2txt is no real substitute unfortunately.

Is there a way to handle OOo 1.x documents with odt2txt or could it be 
fixed to do so.


Are there alternatives for processing/extracting text from OOo 1.x 
documents?


I CCed the OOo and odt2txt maintainers. Hopefully they can share their 
insight on this.


Cheers,
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[Michael Biebl]

severity 478091 important
thanks

David wrote:

Package: tracker
Version: 0.6.6-1+b1
Severity: serious

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---

tracker uses o3read to extract the text of OpenOffice documents. In fact,
o3read is in the recommendation list of tracker.

Nevertheless, o3read has been dropped from the repository in favour of
odt2txt: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477311(furthermore,
o3read does not work with the new OpenOffice format).



Thanks for the notice. I'll update the dependencies accordingly.
As o3read is only a Recommends though, severity serious is not justified 
 and so I'm downgrading to imortant.


Cheers,
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[David]

Package: tracker
Version: 0.6.6-1+b1
Severity: serious

--- Please enter the report below this line. ---

tracker uses o3read to extract the text of OpenOffice documents. In fact,
o3read is in the recommendation list of tracker.

Nevertheless, o3read has been dropped from the repository in favour of
odt2txt: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477311(furthermore,
o3read does not work with the new OpenOffice format).

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