Bug#478208: Bug#392015: [Debian] Re: Bug#478208: linux-patch-openvz asks for kernel version 2.6.18 while default kernel on lenny is 2.6.24

2008-04-29 Thread Kir Kolyshkin
As for mainstream integration, I can say OpenVZ is committed to merging 
containers functionality to mainstream. I have just checked the number 
of changesets submitted by OpenVZ and Linux-VServer guys, using 
up-to-date Linus' kernel git tree. For the last 365 days (i.e. a year) 
there were 818 changesets from OpenVZ guys and only 14 patches from 
VServer guys. These numbers could be wrong (maybe I'm missing someone) 
but not totally wrong.


Also, IMHO the document 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines is not 
applicable to this case because it describes patches that are [not] 
welcome to standard Debian kernel, while OpenVZ, Linux-VServer, Xen 
etc. provide flavored kernels. In other words, these all are special 
kernels with special use cases. So, either this policy is not 
applicable, or linux-image-vserver and linux-image-xen are all not 
conforming to the policy.


As for 2.6.26, OpenVZ team plans to start porting to that kernel as soon 
as 2.6.26-rc1 is released.
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines?action=fullsearchvalue=linkto%3A%22DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines%22context=180 





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Bug#478208: Bug#392015: [Debian] Re: Bug#478208: linux-patch-openvz asks for kernel version 2.6.18 while default kernel on lenny is 2.6.24

2008-04-29 Thread maximilian attems
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:47:27PM +0400, Kir Kolyshkin wrote:
 As for mainstream integration, I can say OpenVZ is committed to merging 
 containers functionality to mainstream. I have just checked the number 
 of changesets submitted by OpenVZ and Linux-VServer guys, using 
 up-to-date Linus' kernel git tree. For the last 365 days (i.e. a year) 
 there were 818 changesets from OpenVZ guys and only 14 patches from 
 VServer guys. These numbers could be wrong (maybe I'm missing someone) 
 but not totally wrong.

indeed the openvz upstream merge record is fun to watch :)
IMHO the coding style of vserver is not up to upstream merge quality.
even if compared to xen we are quite happy about its etch bug count.
 
 Also, IMHO the document 
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines is not 
 applicable to this case because it describes patches that are [not] 
 welcome to standard Debian kernel, while OpenVZ, Linux-VServer, Xen 
 etc. provide flavored kernels. In other words, these all are special 
 kernels with special use cases. So, either this policy is not 
 applicable, or linux-image-vserver and linux-image-xen are all not 
 conforming to the policy.

sure,
it is for random_unsolcited_oot.patch.
 
 As for 2.6.26, OpenVZ team plans to start porting to that kernel as soon 
 as 2.6.26-rc1 is released.

great,
please post git tree once it is public, so that we can integrate
the flavour for upcoming 2.6.26 Lenny release.

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Bug#478208: Bug#392015: [Debian] Re: Bug#478208: linux-patch-openvz asks for kernel version 2.6.18 while default kernel on lenny is 2.6.24

2008-04-29 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 05:20:06PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
 indeed the openvz upstream merge record is fun to watch :)
 IMHO the coding style of vserver is not up to upstream merge quality.
 even if compared to xen we are quite happy about its etch bug count.

I just took a look into the patch (the devpts part, because upstream
Linux lacks namespace support there) and I was shocked about the
quality of this patch.

Bastian

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Bug#478208: Bug#392015: [Debian] Re: Bug#478208: linux-patch-openvz asks for kernel version 2.6.18 while default kernel on lenny is 2.6.24

2008-04-28 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 05:47:20PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
  Since we are talking about openvz and kernel, may I ask for a 
  linux-image-2.6.x-openvz package like Debian already has for xen and 
  vserver?

VServer looks currently dead.

 However it do not match the Debian Acceptance Guidelines as you can see in
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines

Well, for an extra featureset, it may be accepted. As we don't longer
want to build extra Xen images and VServer is also not supported
currently, we may have a spare slot for them.

Bastian

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Bug#478208: Bug#392015: [Debian] Re: Bug#478208: linux-patch-openvz asks for kernel version 2.6.18 while default kernel on lenny is 2.6.24

2008-04-28 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi Bastian

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:32:47PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 05:47:20PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
 Since we are talking about openvz and kernel, may I ask for a 
   linux-image-2.6.x-openvz package like Debian already has for xen and 
   vserver?
 
 VServer looks currently dead.

That is a pity. Is it a problem upstream or with the maintainer?

  However it do not match the Debian Acceptance Guidelines as you can see in
  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines
 
 Well, for an extra featureset, it may be accepted. As we don't longer
 want to build extra Xen images and VServer is also not supported
 currently, we may have a spare slot for them.

That sounds like a good thing to me. What do I need to do in order
to help with including openvz? Besides providing a decent patch?

Best regards,

// Ola

 Bastian
 
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