Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
Hilmar Preusse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03.05.08 Jörg Sommer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Frank Küster schrieb am Sat 03. May, 11:47 (+0200): A. Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It looks like 'tetex-bin' is missing some files, or it used to have them and they're now in some other package. What package has those config files? tex-common, in etch, lenny, sid. The problem with --force-confmiss is that those files are under ucf control, not dpkg control, and ucf doesn't understand --force-confmiss. BTW: Why are these files managed with ucf? Why doesn't dpkg fit to your needs? The files are used to build the file texmf.cnf in Debian. This file however is widely described as the central config file of a TeX system. So on the one hand the recommended way to change texmf.cnf is to change the files in question, but direct changes to texmf.cnf should be regarded. There are a few bugs about this topic for tetex packages around 2003-2004. At this time Frank decided to involve ucf. That's only half correct: It's the reason why texmf.cnf is managed by ucf. IIRC, the reason why the files in texmf.d are managed by ucf is that dpkg wasn't at all able to handle the movement of conffiles from one package to the other, at the time the files were moved from tetex-bin to tex-common. No, sorry, that can't be the complete story either, since even in oldstable (and tetex-bin) they are ucf-managed. We would be glad to put them back under dpkg control, if only dpkg would provide a) the necessary features (in particular moving between packages) and b) some clean way to get them back from ucf without loosing information. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
Hallo A., A. Costa schrieb am Sun 04. May, 01:16 (-0400): On Sat, 3 May 2008 14:21:46 +0200 Jörg Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Küster schrieb am Sat 03. May, 11:47 (+0200): A. Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like 'tetex-bin' is missing some files, or it used to have them and they're now in some other package. What package has those config files? tex-common, in etch, lenny, sid. The problem with --force-confmiss is that those files are under ucf control, not dpkg control, and ucf doesn't understand --force-confmiss. Simply do UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=yes dpkg-reconfigure tex-common Thanks, I got... % UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=yes dpkg-reconfigure tex-common ; echo $? /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: tex-common is broken or not fully installed 1 Sorry, I missed your installation didn't succeed. ...then tried that variable with 'dpkg', and (for some reason) it worked: % UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=yes dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/tex-common_1.11_all.deb Yes, this was the right thing to do. (Reading database ... 234065 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace tex-common 1.11 (using .../tex-common_1.11_all.deb) ... Ignoring nonregistered document `debian-tex-policy' Ignoring nonregistered document `tex-on-debian' Unpacking replacement tex-common ... Setting up tex-common (1.11) ... Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf with new version, as asked Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf with new version, as asked But does this constitute an actual bug in any of the current software? From what Frank Kuster said, it sounds like my system's odd behavior might have been caused by many things Yes, was an odd behaviour of the system somewhere in the past and now, from the package point of view it looks like the admin decided to remove the files. That's his choice, but he must expect that things break. The problem here is, you didn't made the decision. There was any corruption of the system. So, I would close this report, because it is not a bug in the package. The system was misconfigured and the Policy force to don't change user configuration. And it's allowed that misconfigured software breaks. For diagnostics, it might be nice to have some util like 'dlocate' that worked for config files, This is difficult. Many packages do not announce their ownership anywhere. They drop the files in /etc and go away. Regards, Jörg. -- A red sign on the door of a physics professor: 'If this sign is blue, you're going too fast.' signature.asc Description: Digital signature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
Hallo Hilmar, Hilmar Preusse schrieb am Sat 03. May, 16:31 (+0200): On 03.05.08 Jörg Sommer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: BTW: Why are these files managed with ucf? Why doesn't dpkg fit to your needs? The files are used to build the file texmf.cnf in Debian. This file however is widely described as the central config file of a TeX system. So on the one hand the recommended way to change texmf.cnf is to change the files in question, but direct changes to texmf.cnf should be regarded. I know. I think you are doing the same as the Exim team with exim.conf. At this time Frank decided to involve ucf. But I don't see why the files in /etc/texmf/texmf.d have to be managed with ucf. They can be normal conffile, shipped with the package. Yes, /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf is different. It must be managed with ucf or moved out of /etc, like the Exim people do. Bye, Jörg. -- Computer Science is no more about Computers than astronomy is about telescopes. (Edsger Wybe Dijkstra) signature.asc Description: Digital signature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
A. Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, maybe the config files are in a different package. 'dlocate' reports those are in 'tetex-bin': [...] Now here I find there was no 'tetex-bin' in my cache, (a recent space saving backup), These files were part of tetex-bin in *oldstable*, while even in stable they are in tex-common. On the other hand, your system claims to be Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') That sounds as if you didn't properly dist-upgrade somehow long ago. Looks OK, did it work? No: That's expected, since tetex-bin is now just an empty transitional package. It looks like 'tetex-bin' is missing some files, or it used to have them and they're now in some other package. What package has those config files? tex-common, in etch, lenny, sid. The problem with --force-confmiss is that those files are under ucf control, not dpkg control, and ucf doesn't understand --force-confmiss. In other days, I'd had been able to give you a solution at once, but currently I am so out of these ucf things that I cannot - and I must leave now, so I'm sending this e-mail anyway. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
Hi, Frank Küster schrieb am Sat 03. May, 11:47 (+0200): A. Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like 'tetex-bin' is missing some files, or it used to have them and they're now in some other package. What package has those config files? tex-common, in etch, lenny, sid. The problem with --force-confmiss is that those files are under ucf control, not dpkg control, and ucf doesn't understand --force-confmiss. Simply do UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=yes dpkg-reconfigure tex-common BTW: Why are these files managed with ucf? Why doesn't dpkg fit to your needs? Bye, Jörg. -- “Perl—the only language that looks the same before and after RSA encryption.” (Keith Bostic) signature.asc Description: Digital signature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
On 03.05.08 Jörg Sommer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Frank Küster schrieb am Sat 03. May, 11:47 (+0200): A. Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It looks like 'tetex-bin' is missing some files, or it used to have them and they're now in some other package. What package has those config files? tex-common, in etch, lenny, sid. The problem with --force-confmiss is that those files are under ucf control, not dpkg control, and ucf doesn't understand --force-confmiss. BTW: Why are these files managed with ucf? Why doesn't dpkg fit to your needs? The files are used to build the file texmf.cnf in Debian. This file however is widely described as the central config file of a TeX system. So on the one hand the recommended way to change texmf.cnf is to change the files in question, but direct changes to texmf.cnf should be regarded. There are a few bugs about this topic for tetex packages around 2003-2004. At this time Frank decided to involve ucf. H. -- sigmentation fault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
On Sat, 3 May 2008 14:21:46 +0200 Jörg Sommer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Küster schrieb am Sat 03. May, 11:47 (+0200): A. Costa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like 'tetex-bin' is missing some files, or it used to have them and they're now in some other package. What package has those config files? tex-common, in etch, lenny, sid. The problem with --force-confmiss is that those files are under ucf control, not dpkg control, and ucf doesn't understand --force-confmiss. Simply do UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=yes dpkg-reconfigure tex-common Thanks, I got... % UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=yes dpkg-reconfigure tex-common ; echo $? /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: tex-common is broken or not fully installed 1 ...then tried that variable with 'dpkg', and (for some reason) it worked: % UCF_FORCE_CONFFMISS=yes dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/tex-common_1.11_all.deb (Reading database ... 234065 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace tex-common 1.11 (using .../tex-common_1.11_all.deb) ... Ignoring nonregistered document `debian-tex-policy' Ignoring nonregistered document `tex-on-debian' Unpacking replacement tex-common ... Setting up tex-common (1.11) ... Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf with new version, as asked Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf with new version, as asked Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf with new version, as asked Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf with new version, as asked Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf with new version, as asked Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf with new version, as asked Recreating deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf with new version, as asked Replacing config file /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf with new version Processing triggers for man-db ... After that, no more 'apt-get' errors. So my system is fixed, and this report is online, and any users with the same problem can fix it if they search. But does this constitute an actual bug in any of the current software? From what Frank Kuster said, it sounds like my system's odd behavior might have been caused by many things -- this system's been running since 1998, and had several hardware and dist upgrades since then. I don't recall mucking with those files, but that's no guarantee. Or some bug that was fixed years ago, but left behind a few loose ends. For diagnostics, it might be nice to have some util like 'dlocate' that worked for config files, (highly speculative), if not all of them, whatever subset of the whole on which it could be made to work, (I don't know how). Less speculative would be a util like 'dlocate' for files from packages that aren't installed -- I think some Debian web page has a search function that does this, (or rather searches all packages), but I don't remember where it is; given that page, such a util could access the page, parse the output, do some logic to filter out the local stuff, and print the results to standard output. Bugs or no bugs, thanks Jörg Sommer, Frank Kuster, Norbert Preining for collectively fixing my system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
Hi, On Do, 01 Mai 2008, A. Costa wrote: Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf You seem to have removed the config files, sorry, there is no way around that. If you have done that without knowing you have to install tex-common via dpkg and --install-missing (AFAIR) command line to get the removed config files back. If this is an error it is an error of dpkg, but it seems (again) that you did remove the files. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- GREELEY (n.) Someone who continually annoys you by continually apologising for annoying you. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
severity 478992 normal tags 478992 + unreproducible thanks Tagging this bug as unreprodrucible, and normal severity. Seems to be a user problem. Best wishes Norbert --- Dr. Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]Vienna University of Technology Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian TeX Group gpg DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094 --- KNOPTOFT (n.) The mysterious fluff placed in your pockets by dry-cleaning firms. --- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:21:50 +0200
Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not replacing deleted config
file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf
You seem to have removed the config files, sorry, there is no way
around that. If you have done that without knowing you have to install
tex-common via dpkg and --install-missing (AFAIR) command line to get
the removed config files back.
I don't recall doing much anything with those config files,
but a run of:
# as root
% zgrep -h tex-common /var/log/dpkg.log* | sort -g | gzip
/tmp/tc.log.gz
...(attached) shows this may have been an issue for 6 months; odds are your
informed opinion is better than my fumbling.
On 'dpkg' and '--install-missing', there's no such option, but it's a good clue,
and 'man dpkg' has a '--force-confmiss'; let's try that:
% dpkg -i --force-confmiss
/var/cache/apt/archives/tex-common_1.11_all.deb
{...}
update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf
missing.
{...}
Hmm, maybe the config files are in a different package. 'dlocate'
reports those are in 'tetex-bin':
% dlocate /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf /etc/texmf/
texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf
tetex-bin: /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf
tetex-bin: /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf
tetex-bin: /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf
tetex-bin: /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf
tetex-bin: /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf
tetex-bin: /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf
tetex-bin: /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf
Now here I find there was no 'tetex-bin' in my cache, (a recent space
saving backup), so here I installed the latest with 'apt-get'.
Try again with the latest 'tetex-bin':
% dpkg -i --force-confmiss
/var/cache/apt/archives/tetex-bin_2007-14_all.deb ; echo $?
(Reading database ... 234008 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace tetex-bin 2007-14 (using
.../tetex-bin_2007-14_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement tetex-bin ...
Setting up tetex-bin (2007-14) ...
0
Looks OK, did it work? No:
% ls -l /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf: No such file or
directory
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf: No such file or
directory
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf: No such file or
directory
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf: No such file or
directory
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf: No such file or
directory
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf: No such file or
directory
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf: No such file or
directory
ls: cannot access /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf: No such file or
directory
Maybe the new 'tetex-bin' is faulty...
% dlocate -conf tetex-bin
Package tetex-bin not installed or has no conffiles.
# update the 'dlocate' database, in case something has changed.
% update-dlocatedb
% dlocate /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf
/etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf ; echo $?
1
It looks like 'tetex-bin' is missing some files, or it used to have them
and they're now in some other package. What package has those config files?
HTH...
tc.log.gz
Description: Binary data
Bug#478992: update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing.
Package: tex-common Version: 1.11 Severity: important During upgrade 'Setup' fails: % apt-get install --reinstall tex-common ; echo $? Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 267 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up tex-common (1.11) ... Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf Not replacing deleted config file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf update-texmf: Basic configuration file /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf missing. Exiting. dpkg: error processing tex-common (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: tex-common E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 100 Back in 2004 M. Uhlmann had a similar problem: tetex installation problem: missing /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2004/09/msg00026.html Hope this helps... -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968) (ignored: LC_ALL set to C) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages tex-common depends on: ii debconf 1.5.21 Debian configuration management sy ii ucf 3.006 Update Configuration File: preserv tex-common recommends no packages. Versions of packages tetex-bin depends on: ii texlive 2007-13TeX Live: A decent selection of th Versions of packages texlive-base depends on: ii texlive-base-bin 2007.dfsg.1-2 TeX Live: Essential binaries ii texlive-common 2007-13 TeX Live: Base component ii texlive-doc-base 2007-3TeX Live: Base documentation -- debconf information: * tetex-bin/cnf_name: tex-common/check_texmf_missing: tex-common/singleuser: false tetex-bin/groupperm: true * tetex-bin/lsr-perms: true * tetex-bin/groupna/groupname: users tex-common/check_texmf_wrong: tetex-bin/userperm: false * tetex-bin/hyphen: * tetex-bin/oldcfg: true * tetex-bin/use_debconf: true * tetex-bin/groupname: users -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
