Bug#495423: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#495423: Bug#495423: xfce4-mailwatch-plugin: Please add an option so that mailwatch does not change status of mails
On Fri, 22. Aug 2008, Tino Keitel wrote: So maybe the bug reporter refers to the mail status in a maildir on the server, That is exactly what I meant. I have the same behaviour with mutt as you described it. - Stephan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#495423: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#495423: Bug#495423: xfce4-mailwatch-plugin: Please add an option so that mailwatch does not change status of mails
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:37:17 +0200, Stephan Windmüller wrote: On Sun, 17. Aug 2008, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: I don't get it. You're saying that, with an IMAP configured in mailwatch plugin, each time the plugin check the mails it only sees the new ones since the last time it checked? Because I sure cant reproduce. No, this would be a bug, not a feature. ;) Let me explain: As I understand IMAP, a mail can have one of three states: New, unread and read. 1. When it arrives in my mailbox it is new. 2. After I look into the folder with a mail client it is unread. 3. When I read the mail, it is read. When the mailwatch plugin looks for new mail, it changes the state from new to unread. From my point of view it should not do this because I want my real mail client to show me the mails still as new until I open the folder to look at the subjects. I observed the same, but not with the xfce mailwatch plugin. And in my case, the IMAP client (isync/mbsync) changes the status in the maildirs on the _server_ (dropbear, but courier behaved the same way IIRC). If the client fetches the mails from the server, new mails in the maildirs on the server are moved from new/ to cur/. If I open that maildir on the server using mutt, those mails are shown as old (which corresponds to unread in the above list I think). But all clients still see those mails as new, as it should be. So maybe the bug reporter refers to the mail status in a maildir on the server, or the server really reports those mails as unread instead of new after the xfce mailwatch plugin checks the mails. This would be a server issue IMHO. In my case, multiple clients fetch the mails from the server, and if the mails are marked as unread in the maildir on the server after the first client has fetched, they are still fetched as new by the other client. Regards, Tino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#495423: xfce4-mailwatch-plugin: Please add an option so that mailwatch does not change status of mails
Package: xfce4-mailwatch-plugin Version: 1.0.1-2+b1 Severity: wishlist When the mailwatch-plugin looks for mails in an IMAP folder, those mails lose the status new. Since the plugin does not show me the mails, it would be nice to have an option so that mailwatch leaves all mails as new. -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (900, 'testing'), (800, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.25-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages xfce4-mailwatch-plugin depends on: ii libatk1.0-01.22.0-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libc6 2.7-13GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libcairo2 1.6.4-6 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libfontconfig1 2.6.0-1 generic font configuration library ii libfreetype6 2.3.7-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgcrypt111.4.1-1 LGPL Crypto library - runtime libr ii libglib2.0-0 2.16.4-2 The GLib library of C routines ii libgnutls262.4.1-1 the GNU TLS library - runtime libr ii libgpg-error0 1.4-2 library for common error values an ii libgtk2.0-02.12.11-3 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libpango1.0-0 1.20.5-1 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libpng12-0 1.2.27-1 PNG library - runtime ii libtasn1-3 1.4-1 Manage ASN.1 structures (runtime) ii libx11-6 2:1.1.4-2 X11 client-side library ii libxfce4util4 4.4.2-3 Utility functions library for Xfce ii libxfcegui4-4 4.4.2-4 Basic GUI C functions for Xfce4 ii libxrender11:0.9.4-2 X Rendering Extension client libra ii xfce4-panel4.4.2-6 The Xfce4 desktop environment pane ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-12 compression library - runtime xfce4-mailwatch-plugin recommends no packages. xfce4-mailwatch-plugin suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#495423: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#495423: xfce4-mailwatch-plugin: Please add an option so that mailwatch does not change status of mails
On dim, 2008-08-17 at 11:34 +0200, Stephan Windmüller wrote: When the mailwatch-plugin looks for mails in an IMAP folder, those mails lose the status new. Since the plugin does not show me the mails, it would be nice to have an option so that mailwatch leaves all mails as new. I don't get it. You're saying that, with an IMAP configured in mailwatch plugin, each time the plugin check the mails it only sees the new ones since the last time it checked? Because I sure cant reproduce. I configured a IMAP account in mailwatch with a 1 min interval, closed all my mail clients, then sent me 3 mails at 1 min interval, and mailwatch plugin sure displays “1” then “2” then “3”. Please double check you don't have any other client which would mark the mails as read, because mailwatch wont (at least the simple imap one, I didn't check for others but I'd assume the same). Cheers. -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#495423: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#495423: xfce4-mailwatch-plugin: Please add an option so that mailwatch does not change status of mails
On Sun, 17. Aug 2008, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: I don't get it. You're saying that, with an IMAP configured in mailwatch plugin, each time the plugin check the mails it only sees the new ones since the last time it checked? Because I sure cant reproduce. No, this would be a bug, not a feature. ;) Let me explain: As I understand IMAP, a mail can have one of three states: New, unread and read. 1. When it arrives in my mailbox it is new. 2. After I look into the folder with a mail client it is unread. 3. When I read the mail, it is read. When the mailwatch plugin looks for new mail, it changes the state from new to unread. From my point of view it should not do this because I want my real mail client to show me the mails still as new until I open the folder to look at the subjects. I hope that my wish is clear now. :) - Stephan signature.asc Description: Digital signature
