Bug#495853: package deviates from standard mail-transport-agent dependency.

2008-08-22 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Andreas Henriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The previous discussions has lead nowhere. No use in discussing it yet
> again, instead it's time to act!

Put down that crack pipe. Now.

> I offer to fix up all packages to exim4 | mail-transport-agent *and*
> when there is a working default-mta proposal and a need for changing the
> actual default mta fix it up in every package.

Nice offer, but please let these packages alone. Your changes wouldn't end
up in lenny anyway, so we do have enough time to discuss a proper
solution and implement it.

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Bug#495853: package deviates from standard mail-transport-agent dependency.

2008-08-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> I offer to fix up all packages to exim4 | mail-transport-agent *and*

Don't do it on any packages that tagged the bug wontfix, at least not
without asking first (AND getting a positive response).  Some of the
packages have real reasons to prefer an MTA other than exim4.

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Bug#495853: package deviates from standard mail-transport-agent dependency.

2008-08-21 Thread Andreas Henriksson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:37:38AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Where did you discuss this mass filing of (useless) bugs before you
> > submitted them?

The previous discussions has lead nowhere. No use in discussing it yet
again, instead it's time to act!

> 
> In particular, these bugs are *contrary* to the developing consensus in the
> thread at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/05/msg00381.html ff.

There where no consensus, since you where all just discussing overengineered
solutions for solving the problem and all pointing out bugs in eachothers
suggestions. Using exim4 | mail-transport-agent is the most
straight-forward solution and will require minimal changes.
When (or even if) the default mta changes, we can easily introduce the
default-mta then (and maybe people would even have come up with a bug-free
overengineered solution by then).

I offer to fix up all packages to exim4 | mail-transport-agent *and*
when there is a working default-mta proposal and a need for changing the
actual default mta fix it up in every package.

If people put as much effort into actually working on packages
as they did on debating in useless threads that leads nowhere the
distribution would be in a hell of alot better shape.

Over and out.

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Bug#495853: package deviates from standard mail-transport-agent dependency.

2008-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 09:29:35AM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=andreas%40fatal.se

> > Your packag depends on postfix | mail-transport-agent. Exim (v4) is 
> > generally
> > considered the default mta in Debian and is also the package providing
> > mail-transport-agent which has the highest priority.
> > Is there any particular reason why your package needs to deviate from
> > which mta is pulled in by default? If not, could you please consider
> > streamlining your package with the rest so we have a uniform behaviour in
> > debian?

> Where did you discuss this mass filing of (useless) bugs before you
> submitted them?

In particular, these bugs are *contrary* to the developing consensus in the
thread at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/05/msg00381.html ff.

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Bug#495853: package deviates from standard mail-transport-agent dependency.

2008-08-20 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Package: sks
Severity: normal

Hello!

Your packag depends on postfix | mail-transport-agent. Exim (v4) is generally
considered the default mta in Debian and is also the package providing
mail-transport-agent which has the highest priority.
Is there any particular reason why your package needs to deviate from
which mta is pulled in by default? If not, could you please consider
streamlining your package with the rest so we have a uniform behaviour in
debian?




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