Bug#526878: Bug#471801: Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2010-10-01 Thread Lars Volker
Hi Jan, Peter and everyone subscribed,

as you probably followed on the mentors list, I uploaded new packages to
m-d-n and submitted a request for sponsorship in June. Three people
replied to my request, one of which actually had suggestions on what to
improve about the packages. I appreciate that and tried to fix some of
the problems in a second upload.

There also were comments on the quality of the egroupware (upstream)
codebase, its maintainability, and why it should be dropped from debian.
Those were kind of surprising to me. Egroupware has been included in
debian before and I didn't expect such strong resentments against a
re-inclusion.

I think, that there are two kinds of objections, which I tried to
outline in my email on June 21st:

snip
  - Objections related to the packages themselves:
Those mainly arise from the fact, that Peter had invested *a lot* of
work into the packaging process, some of which I might not have
perfectly understood from the beginning. Thus for example I removed the
watch file - not knowing, that lintian will complain in --pedantic mode.
Also I acknowledged Peter's work, when I ignored most of the lintian
warnings originating from his packages. If they were included before -
so I thought - they can't be that important. Partially I still believe
that if they weren't a big show stopper before, they shouldn't be now.
However I intend to fix them over the time of continuous maintenance.

- Objections related to the package's content: The egroupware suite
Here I disagree with those claiming egroupware was not suitable for
inclusion as such.

/snip

For the last couple of months I did not follow the issue of debian
inclusion. I am still willing to do the work. However, as I am neither
debian nor egroupware developer, I cannot debate the upstream codebase.
If there's enough interest in egroupware on debians side, all it takes
is some hints like fix this, fix that. I'm also confident, that in
most cases the egroupware folks are willing to fix upstream issues.

If however the debian policy cannot permit egroupware upstream code into
debian, then I wont be able to fix that. I can try to pass the messages
between debian and egroupware, but it would be way more productive, if
upstream issues could be solved by direct communication.


To bring the whole thing forward, we could try to agree on the following:

- Debian agrees whether its policy is compatible with egroupware
upstream code.
- If so, I will collect all issues related to the packaging (unmentioned
licenses, watch file, unmentioned authors). A couple of them also seems
to stem from changes in lintian, and might just be new.
- Afterwards I will build new packages fixing the packaging errors and
upload them to m-d-n.

Theres a lot for me to learn during the process. This will be a lot of
work is not an issue for me, as long as the overall perspective is to
end up with high quality packages (included in debian).

Best Regards,

  Lars


Am 29.09.2010 21:40, schrieb Peter Eisentraut:
 On ons, 2010-09-29 at 18:46 +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
 Hi Lars,

 On Monday, 3. May 2010, Lars Volker wrote:
 I've uploaded the new packages to m-d-n and I'd be glad, if one of you
 could have a look at them. Especially I'm looking forward to hear from
 Peter again.

 even if it would be too late for squeeze, is there any progress on the 
 packaging? I did realize, that 1.8 is coming around the corner.
 
 I think Lars Volker is doing the packaging, but is looking for a
 sponsor/mentor in Debian.
 



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Bug#526878: Bug#471801: Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2010-09-29 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi Lars,

On Monday, 3. May 2010, Lars Volker wrote:
 I've uploaded the new packages to m-d-n and I'd be glad, if one of you
 could have a look at them. Especially I'm looking forward to hear from
 Peter again.

even if it would be too late for squeeze, is there any progress on the 
packaging? I did realize, that 1.8 is coming around the corner.

With kind regards, Jan.
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Bug#526878: Bug#471801: Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2010-09-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On ons, 2010-09-29 at 18:46 +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
 Hi Lars,
 
 On Monday, 3. May 2010, Lars Volker wrote:
  I've uploaded the new packages to m-d-n and I'd be glad, if one of you
  could have a look at them. Especially I'm looking forward to hear from
  Peter again.
 
 even if it would be too late for squeeze, is there any progress on the 
 packaging? I did realize, that 1.8 is coming around the corner.

I think Lars Volker is doing the packaging, but is looking for a
sponsor/mentor in Debian.




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Bug#471801: Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2010-05-03 Thread Lars Volker
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Hi Jan, Hi Peter, Hi all,

responding to my last attempt to upload suitable packages to m-d-n,
Peter sent me an email explaining various issues and mistakes I had
made. I've reviewed his suggestions and came up with the following
suggestion:

As the most important task is to get egroupware back into a maintained
and includable state, I've taken the latest debian/ code from svn-d-o
and updated the tarball to the latest upstream release. I've also added
myself as Maintainer, but I'm not sure whether this is justified,
despite m-d-n stating so. Neither do I want to take away any credit for
the great efforts, everyone has put into this, but I also don't want
anyone to be annoyed with bug-related information being sent to their
addresses. If I should put the QA-address back in, please let me know.

The versions I had uploaded to m-d-n before were based on the latest
debian versions of stylite's egroupware-epl packages. As this new
packages are based on the latest code from svn-d-o, practically all
issues should be resolved.

With egroupware-egw-pear lintian reported changelog-should-mention-qa,
but I'm not sure whether to act upon that or if the package will be out
of QA?

The native-package-with-dash-version is due to the fact, that the
current upstream-version contains a dash in its version number.

I've uploaded the new packages to m-d-n and I'd be glad, if one of you
could have a look at them. Especially I'm looking forward to hear from
Peter again.

With kind regards,

  Lars

Am 14.04.2010 15:26, schrieb Jan Wagner:
 Hi Lars,
 
 On Wednesday 14 April 2010 14:45:02 Lars Volker wrote:
 after building Debian packages for the EPL version of egroupware for the
 last year, I also started building packages on opensuse's buildserver.
 They can be downloaded at
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/eGroupWare/Debian_5.0/

 After I talked to Ralf about Debian dropping egroupware, we decided that
 I should try to take care of the packages there as well. Therefore I
 corrected most of the lintian errors and warnings in the packages we had
 provided on opensuse's platform so far and uploaded them to mentors.d.n.
 
 thanks for taking care.
 
 I'd really appreciate it, if someone picked up on those and sponsored my
 work.
 
 Maybe you should get in touch with potential sponsors directly (and keep tese 
 bugreports updated as well).
 
 If you have any questions regarding my work or myself, feel free to ask
 at any time.
 
 Hmm ... why not based on svn://svn.debian.org/collab-maint/ext-
 maint/egroupware/trunk/ (http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/collab-maint/ext-
 maint/egroupware/trunk/)
 
 Thanks and with kind regards, Jan.
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Bug#471801: Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2010-04-14 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi Lars, hi Peter, hi Martin,

On Tuesday 09 March 2010 10:32:29 Jan Wagner wrote:
 On Saturday, 22. August 2009, Ralf Becker wrote:
  Independent of how EGroupware is maintained in Debian in future, I'm
  happy to work closer together with Debian Security Team, to get earlier
  information about exploits in embedded code and coordinate security
  fixes.
 
  If I'm going to maintain EGroupware in Debian, everyone can expect
  same-time releases of Debian packages (to experimental), as the other
  rpm packages or archives of EGroupware.

 I don't know, if you have noticed, but egroupware[1] was removed from
 testing, which results in releasing the next stable version of Debian
 _without_ egroupware. Actually the package has _no_ maintainer, so there is
 no work done to change this soon (and Debian ist freezing in the next days,
 so there is no time to relaxe, if this is intended to).
 While you released 1.6.003 these days I was remembered about the problem.
 As staying egroupware seems most important, the situation seems even more
 worse.

since Ralf did nothing (beside spreading the word), the packages are removed 
from testing and unstable.

Today I accidentaly found the packages from Lars on mentors.d.n:

http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-
pkglist?action=details;package=egroupware

Maybe Peter or Martin are willing to sponsor the packages?

Thanks and with kind regards, Jan.
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2010-04-14 Thread Lars Volker

Hi Jan, hi Peter, Martin, Ralf,

after building Debian packages for the EPL version of egroupware for the 
last year, I also started building packages on opensuse's buildserver. 
They can be downloaded at 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/eGroupWare/Debian_5.0/


After I talked to Ralf about Debian dropping egroupware, we decided that 
I should try to take care of the packages there as well. Therefore I 
corrected most of the lintian errors and warnings in the packages we had 
provided on opensuse's platform so far and uploaded them to mentors.d.n.


I'd really appreciate it, if someone picked up on those and sponsored my 
work.


If you have any questions regarding my work or myself, feel free to ask 
at any time.


Thanks and best regards,

  Lars

Jan Wagner schrieb:

Hi Lars, hi Peter, hi Martin,

On Tuesday 09 March 2010 10:32:29 Jan Wagner wrote:

On Saturday, 22. August 2009, Ralf Becker wrote:

Independent of how EGroupware is maintained in Debian in future, I'm
happy to work closer together with Debian Security Team, to get earlier
information about exploits in embedded code and coordinate security
fixes.

If I'm going to maintain EGroupware in Debian, everyone can expect
same-time releases of Debian packages (to experimental), as the other
rpm packages or archives of EGroupware.

I don't know, if you have noticed, but egroupware[1] was removed from
testing, which results in releasing the next stable version of Debian
_without_ egroupware. Actually the package has _no_ maintainer, so there is
no work done to change this soon (and Debian ist freezing in the next days,
so there is no time to relaxe, if this is intended to).
While you released 1.6.003 these days I was remembered about the problem.
As staying egroupware seems most important, the situation seems even more
worse.


since Ralf did nothing (beside spreading the word), the packages are removed 
from testing and unstable.


Today I accidentaly found the packages from Lars on mentors.d.n:

http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-
pkglist?action=details;package=egroupware

Maybe Peter or Martin are willing to sponsor the packages?

Thanks and with kind regards, Jan.




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2010-04-14 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi Lars,

On Wednesday 14 April 2010 14:45:02 Lars Volker wrote:
 after building Debian packages for the EPL version of egroupware for the
 last year, I also started building packages on opensuse's buildserver.
 They can be downloaded at
 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/eGroupWare/Debian_5.0/

 After I talked to Ralf about Debian dropping egroupware, we decided that
 I should try to take care of the packages there as well. Therefore I
 corrected most of the lintian errors and warnings in the packages we had
 provided on opensuse's platform so far and uploaded them to mentors.d.n.

thanks for taking care.

 I'd really appreciate it, if someone picked up on those and sponsored my
 work.

Maybe you should get in touch with potential sponsors directly (and keep tese 
bugreports updated as well).

 If you have any questions regarding my work or myself, feel free to ask
 at any time.

Hmm ... why not based on svn://svn.debian.org/collab-maint/ext-
maint/egroupware/trunk/ (http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/collab-maint/ext-
maint/egroupware/trunk/)

Thanks and with kind regards, Jan.
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Bug#471801: Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2010-03-09 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi Ralf,

On Saturday, 22. August 2009, Ralf Becker wrote:
 Independent of how EGroupware is maintained in Debian in future, I'm
 happy to work closer together with Debian Security Team, to get earlier
 information about exploits in embedded code and coordinate security fixes.
 
 If I'm going to maintain EGroupware in Debian, everyone can expect
 same-time releases of Debian packages (to experimental), as the other
 rpm packages or archives of EGroupware.
 
 I will of cause very like try to handle at least the Linux packages of
 EGroupware as close as possible together - thought in the past mostly
 rpm packages benefit from the already nice Debian packages.
 
 I made now many fixes and enhancements to our commercial Debian
 packages, which I plan to integrate (or report back) to Debian.
 
 Anyway most important for me is that EGroupware stays in Debian.
 I'm happy if we (EGroupware project) have a competent and timely
 available Debian maintainer, as we had in the past with Peter.

I don't know, if you have noticed, but egroupware[1] was removed from testing, 
which results in releasing the next stable version of Debian _without_ 
egroupware. Actually the package has _no_ maintainer, so there is no work done 
to change this soon (and Debian ist freezing in the next days, so there is no 
time to relaxe, if this is intended to).
While you released 1.6.003 these days I was remembered about the problem. As 
staying egroupware seems most important, the situation seems even more 
worse.

With kind regards, Jan.
[1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/egroupware.html
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Bug#504283: Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2010-03-09 Thread Ralf Becker
Hi Jan,

a wasn't aware of that.

It's a shame :-(

Thought I dont know what more I can do, then to express that I'm willing
to maintain it or help someone else to maintain it. The decision about
it is with Debian.

What we (Stylite GmbH and EGroupware project) can do is building Debian
packages on openSUSE build service and making a repository with
Debian/Ubuntu packages available via that infrastructure.

I agree that's not the same as having EGroupware in Debian and Ubuntu.

Ralf

Jan Wagner schrieb:
 Hi Ralf,
 
 On Saturday, 22. August 2009, Ralf Becker wrote:
 Independent of how EGroupware is maintained in Debian in future, I'm
 happy to work closer together with Debian Security Team, to get earlier
 information about exploits in embedded code and coordinate security fixes.

 If I'm going to maintain EGroupware in Debian, everyone can expect
 same-time releases of Debian packages (to experimental), as the other
 rpm packages or archives of EGroupware.

 I will of cause very like try to handle at least the Linux packages of
 EGroupware as close as possible together - thought in the past mostly
 rpm packages benefit from the already nice Debian packages.

 I made now many fixes and enhancements to our commercial Debian
 packages, which I plan to integrate (or report back) to Debian.

 Anyway most important for me is that EGroupware stays in Debian.
 I'm happy if we (EGroupware project) have a competent and timely
 available Debian maintainer, as we had in the past with Peter.
 
 I don't know, if you have noticed, but egroupware[1] was removed from 
 testing, 
 which results in releasing the next stable version of Debian _without_ 
 egroupware. Actually the package has _no_ maintainer, so there is no work 
 done 
 to change this soon (and Debian ist freezing in the next days, so there is no 
 time to relaxe, if this is intended to).
 While you released 1.6.003 these days I was remembered about the problem. As 
 staying egroupware seems most important, the situation seems even more 
 worse.
 
 With kind regards, Jan.
 [1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/egroupware.html

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Bug#526878: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2009-08-22 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi Ralf,

On Thursday 20 August 2009, Ralf Becker wrote:
 I'm one of the admins and the main developer of EGroupware project.

 Naturally I'm very interested that EGroupware stays in Debian.

 I'm building the projects own rpm packages and since a while also Debian
 packages for a professional EGroupware line of my company.

 I'm willing to maintain the Debian packages - thought I have no idea
 what the non-technical requirements on a Debian maintainer are.

one of the main problem for packaging egroupware (not exclusive relevant for 
debian) is the huge amount of embedded code copies[1] (search for 
'egroupware'). This was the reason to not include egroupware into sarge and is 
the actual reason for removing from testing. If there pops up a security 
problem for any embedded code copy, the (egroupware) package needs fixed in 
any way. The ideal solution would be to get rid of the embeddde code copies in 
the egroupware debian package and use the debian package of the embedded code 
copy. For example with phpmailer, just the phpmailer package needs to be fixed 
and egroupware is not vuln anymore.
The actual problem is, to fix the problem in the egroupware package too, which 
is a big security mess.

So if you could take this code copy issue into account, the conditions for 
egroupware in debian would benefit a lot.

Thanks and with kind regards, Jan.
[1] http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/secure-testing/data/embedded-code-
copies?op=file
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2009-08-22 Thread Ralf Becker
Hi Jan,

Jan Wagner schrieb:
 Hi Ralf,
 
 one of the main problem for packaging egroupware (not exclusive relevant for 
 debian) is the huge amount of embedded code copies[1] (search for 
 'egroupware'). This was the reason to not include egroupware into sarge and 
 is 
 the actual reason for removing from testing. If there pops up a security 
 problem for any embedded code copy, the (egroupware) package needs fixed in 
 any way. The ideal solution would be to get rid of the embeddde code copies 
 in 
 the egroupware debian package and use the debian package of the embedded code 
 copy. For example with phpmailer, just the phpmailer package needs to be 
 fixed 
 and egroupware is not vuln anymore.
 The actual problem is, to fix the problem in the egroupware package too, 
 which 
 is a big security mess.

Unfortunately the problem is more complex. Here are a few reasons why
code it embed into EGroupware instead of using external libraries:

- upstream did not accepted patches necessary for bugfixes or
enhancements (eg. CalDAV support via HTTP_WebDAV_Server)
- missing time and resources to communicate and negotiate with upstream
to accept required modifications
- not creating more dependencies for inexperienced users mostly using
zip archives under windows (I know that matters not for Debian, but it's
important for our user base). So far we only have dependencies in either
PHP extensions or PEAR packages (for the EGroupware core).
- sharing authentication and sessions with other external applications,
can usually not be archived with just a parallel installation. Even if
the software is untouched (as for example Gallery2) we need to provide
configuration files (fetching their data from EGroupware) within their
code trees
- other stuff like eg. FCKeditor requires to create and/or configure a
serverside backend

I know most of the above can be solved, if we look only on Debian and
EGroupware developers had more resources to spend in that area.

Looking at the exploits of the last years - the majority was caused by
embed code - most were fixed within days of coming to my knowledge. That
process of cause only starts, after the upstream projects published.

 So if you could take this code copy issue into account, the conditions for 
 egroupware in debian would benefit a lot.
 
 Thanks and with kind regards, Jan.
 [1] 
 http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/secure-testing/data/embedded-code-copies?op=file

This list is not up to date. It lists all problems as unfixed, which is
not the case: the exploits in these embedded packages are either:
- fixed in the most current EGroupware packages or
- can not be executed in EGroupware (eg. we use only SMTP in phpMailer)

Independent of how EGroupware is maintained in Debian in future, I'm
happy to work closer together with Debian Security Team, to get earlier
information about exploits in embedded code and coordinate security fixes.

If I'm going to maintain EGroupware in Debian, everyone can expect
same-time releases of Debian packages (to experimental), as the other
rpm packages or archives of EGroupware.

I will of cause very like try to handle at least the Linux packages of
EGroupware as close as possible together - thought in the past mostly
rpm packages benefit from the already nice Debian packages.

I made now many fixes and enhancements to our commercial Debian
packages, which I plan to integrate (or report back) to Debian.

Anyway most important for me is that EGroupware stays in Debian.
I'm happy if we (EGroupware project) have a competent and timely
available Debian maintainer, as we had in the past with Peter.

Ralf
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Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Meredith
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:56:59PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 
 On Thursday 20 August 2009, Martin Meredith wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:11:29PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
   On Wednesday 29 July 2009 10:39:48 Martin Meredith wrote:
I've suggested that I adopt this, however, the current maintainer seems
to want to stay as maintainer, and just do everything through
accessible by anyone svn. I'm not too sure exactly what he wants to
do with this.
  
   egroupware was removed from testing and Peter orphaned the package. Are
   you willing to adopt the package?
  
  Potentially, but I need to look it over, and I don't have a key in the
  keyring atm.
 
 are you willing to sponsor his packages, since you are familiar with the 
 package?
 
 With kind regards, Jan.


I will have a key in the keyring by the first week of September. It'll take me
this long to get around to looking at this (if I don't look @ it at the UK BBQ)



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Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2009-08-20 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi Peter,

On Thursday 20 August 2009, Martin Meredith wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:11:29PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
  On Wednesday 29 July 2009 10:39:48 Martin Meredith wrote:
   I've suggested that I adopt this, however, the current maintainer seems
   to want to stay as maintainer, and just do everything through
   accessible by anyone svn. I'm not too sure exactly what he wants to
   do with this.
 
  egroupware was removed from testing and Peter orphaned the package. Are
  you willing to adopt the package?
 
 Potentially, but I need to look it over, and I don't have a key in the
 keyring atm.

are you willing to sponsor his packages, since you are familiar with the 
package?

With kind regards, Jan.
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Bug#471801: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2009-08-20 Thread Ralf Becker
Hi all,

I'm one of the admins and the main developer of EGroupware project.

Naturally I'm very interested that EGroupware stays in Debian.

I'm building the projects own rpm packages and since a while also Debian
packages for a professional EGroupware line of my company.

I'm willing to maintain the Debian packages - thought I have no idea
what the non-technical requirements on a Debian maintainer are.

Kind regards

Ralf

Martin Meredith schrieb:
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:11:29PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote:
 Hi Martin,

 On Wednesday 29 July 2009 10:39:48 Martin Meredith wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 09:02:18AM +0200, Thomas Viehmann wrote:
 Hi everyone (formerly) interested in egroupware,

 egroupware seems to be in need for attention

   #526878
  [egroupware-wiki] egroupware-core sets open_basedir which
  disables hook_config_validate.inc.php (egroupware-wiki) sanity
  check
   Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:15:01 UTC

   #504283
  CVE-2007-3215: phpmailer issue (embedded code-copy)
   Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:33:01 UTC

 It would seem that egroupware should either be adopted and fixed for
 squeeze or removed. Shipping it as an orphaned package sounds like a bad
 idea.

 Kind regards

 T.
 I've suggested that I adopt this, however, the current maintainer seems to
 want to stay as maintainer, and just do everything through accessible by
 anyone svn. I'm not too sure exactly what he wants to do with this.
 egroupware was removed from testing and Peter orphaned the package. Are you 
 willing to adopt the package?

 With kind regards, Jan.
 
 Potentially, but I need to look it over, and I don't have a key in the keyring
 atm.
 
 
 

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Bug#471801: Bug#504283: Bug#471801: egroupware adoption or removal?

2009-08-20 Thread Martin Meredith
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:09:43PM +0200, Ralf Becker wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm one of the admins and the main developer of EGroupware project.
 
 Naturally I'm very interested that EGroupware stays in Debian.
 
 I'm building the projects own rpm packages and since a while also Debian
 packages for a professional EGroupware line of my company.
 
 I'm willing to maintain the Debian packages - thought I have no idea
 what the non-technical requirements on a Debian maintainer are.

With regards to becoming a Debian Maintainer, the requirements are pretty much
all technical.

With regards to becoming a Debian Developer, there are a lot more.

Once I get my key in shape, I'll be happy to work with you and sponsor you to
maintain this?



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