Thank you Marco for responding to the report,

It is kind of hard to just say I am wrong, I now there must be some
amount of truth in it. Where can I find the exciting discussion? Would
you be willing to post some links...

I saw the original report was not very readable because of the no
newlines after 72 characters so below there is a more readable report:


user case (1):
- one of my customers bought a Linux system that uses the
/etc/network/interfaces file with wpa_supplicant and the wlan0 device to
enable an configure his secure network now something happens with the
network card, being in this case an usb wireless stick. And the user
buys a new Linux compatible device from his favorite Linux shop. He
plugs in the device reboots his computer and his network does not work!
He gets frustrated blames Debian and Linux and the local person of the
Linux shop. The Linux shop need to refund the device and possible
guarantee clams that tolled him it will work directly.

user case (2):
- one of my customers is upgrading his system and after upgrading the
network does not work anymore...

problem (1):
- udevs persistent-net-generator names new hardware in an incrementing
way, for example I plug in wlandevice(0) and it becomes wlan0 then I
remove the stick because it is broken, and add a new one the generator
will name it as wlan1 and the network will not work because it is
configured for wlan0.

solution (1):
- change the behavior of the persistent-net-generator. Only increment a
device name when there is a device attached with the used name for
example, I plug in wlandevice0 it will become wlan0 if I add an other
wlandevice1 it will become wlan1, but if I removed wlandevice0 and then
add wlandevice1 it should become wlan0 so the network settings do not
break! Of course there are situations where wlan1, wlan2, wlan3 are
wanted but this is more likely to be an advance user that and can setup
his network on his own. But for non computer literate person the network
should just keep working when configured.

problem (2):
- somehow a new version of udev and kernel detects the device
differently and renames the devices as a new wlan1 device, breaking the
previous working network configuration.

solution (2):
- make sure configuration file are backwards compatible and wont break
excising network configuration. Also see solution (1).

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I have had several cases where the network configuration becomes broken
after upgrading or plugging in new devices. The frustration for my customers
are high, because they don't understand why it is so fragile and
unreliable in there eyes. It gets me personally a bad name and I lose
money because of this issues on guarantee claims.

I am willing to help with a developer to provide a possible solution.

I would very much like this issue to be discussed.

Thanks in advance,

Jelle de Jong



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