Bug#510780: closed by Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk (Re: linux-image-2.6.24-1-486: sound card YMF-724F, firmware request failed)

2009-10-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 14:18 +0100, Stefan Pofahl wrote:
 Hello Ben,
 
 I don't know why, but I needed the link.
  As you noted, soundcore was renamed to snd.  Nothing is missing and
  there is no need to make a symbolic link.
 
 I'm a greenhorn, so I don't know what is happening during kernel compilation,
 my impression is:
 During compilation not only the kernel sources are checked, but that it is
 also relevand on which machine or under which kernel you compile the
 new one.

It should not matter much, as long as you have a working compiler and
use the same processor architecture.  Please remove the section 'Check
the modules of your kernel' from
http://www.jpberlin.de/st.pofahl/html/science-and-software/Gnu-Linux/alsa-sound.html
 as it is bad advice.

 My soundcard works now, so I'm not interested to test, if the bug is still
 there.
 
 Is there chance that the firmware for yamaha soundcards will be included
 in the kernel source or that there will be a firmware package in the
 debian distribution?
[...]

Most firmware that is distributed only in binary form can be packaged as
part of firmware-nonfree, but this depends on the exact terms of its
licence.

The documentation for firmware extracted from the Linux source
(firmware/WHENCE) says:

 Driver: ymfpci -- Yamaha YMF724/740/744/754 audio devices
 
 File: yamaha/ds1_ctrl.fw
 File: yamaha/ds1_dsp.fw
 File: yamaha/ds1e_ctrl.fw
 
 Licence: Unknown
 
 Found alsa-firmware package in hex form, with the following comment:
Copyright (c) 1997-1999 Yamaha Corporation. All Rights Reserved.

Unfortunately this means we have no explicit permission to distribute.
It was presumably intended that the firmware could be distributed along
with the driver that loads it, but it's less clear that we can do so as
a separate package which is not officially part of the Debian system.
We have tried to reduce legal risk for Debian and its mirrors by
removing such firmware completely.

In some cases I have tried contacting copyright holders to get such
explicit permission but I have rarely been successful.  You are welcome
to help by searching for appropriate contacts at Yamaha and making such
a request.

Ben.

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Bug#510780: closed by Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk (Re: linux-image-2.6.24-1-486: sound card YMF-724F, firmware request failed)

2009-10-26 Thread Stefan Pofahl
Hello Ben,

I don't know why, but I needed the link.
 As you noted, soundcore was renamed to snd.  Nothing is missing and
 there is no need to make a symbolic link.

I'm a greenhorn, so I don't know what is happening during kernel compilation,
my impression is:
During compilation not only the kernel sources are checked, but that it is
also relevand on which machine or under which kernel you compile the
new one.

My soundcard works now, so I'm not interested to test, if the bug is still
there.

Is there chance that the firmware for yamaha soundcards will be included
in the kernel source or that there will be a firmware package in the
debian distribution?

Regards,

stefan

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 From: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk
 To: 510780-d...@bugs.debian.org
 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:19:26 +
 Subject: Re: linux-image-2.6.24-1-486: sound card YMF-724F, firmware request 
 failed
 On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 21:55 +0100, Stefan Pofahl wrote:
 Package: linux-image-2.6.24-1-486
 Version: 2.6.24-4
 Severity: important
 bug=466570

 Hello!

 Installing the firmware is not enough,
 the modul soundcore.ko is still necessary.
 [...]
 I published advice for Yamaha hardware:
 http://www.jpberlin.de/st.pofahl/html/science-and-software/Gnu-Linux/alsa-sound.html

 As you noted, soundcore was renamed to snd.  Nothing is missing and
 there is no need to make a symbolic link.

 Ben.

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 I'm always amazed by the number of people who take up solipsism because
 they heard someone else explain it. - E*Borg on alt.fan.pratchett


 -- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --
 From: Stefan Pofahl ste...@pofahl.de
 To: sub...@bugs.debian.org
 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 21:55:43 +0100
 Subject: Re: linux-image-2.6.24-1-486: sound card YMF-724F, firmware request 
 failed

 Package: linux-image-2.6.24-1-486
 Version: 2.6.24-4
 Severity: important

 bug=466570

 Hello!

 Installing the firmware is not enough,
 the modul soundcore.ko is still necessary.
 It would be fine to put some advice in the
 kernel documentation or to fix the bug,
 it is still present in version 2.6.26-12.

 I published advice for Yamaha hardware:
 http://www.jpberlin.de/st.pofahl/html/science-and-software/Gnu-Linux/alsa-sound.html

 Regards,

 Stefan






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Bug#510780: closed by Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk (Re: linux-image-2.6.24-1-486: sound card YMF-724F, firmware request failed)

2009-10-26 Thread maximilian attems
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Stefan Pofahl wrote:
 
 Is there chance that the firmware for yamaha soundcards will be included
 in the kernel source or that there will be a firmware package in the
 debian distribution?
 

unknown license with no redistribution right,
guess if one would ask the license holder, maybe it can get distributed.

Copyright (c) 1997-1999 Yamaha Corporation. All Rights Reserved.




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