Bug#514305: smarty: Please sync the install path with Ubuntu

2010-08-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On snein 15 Augustus 2010, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> > I agree that given that Ubuntu has made this rather poor decision, we're
> > only left with this inelegant way forward to unify the packages again.
> > Obviously we cannot have this changed for Squeeze anymore, so it'll have
> > to be postponed for a bit.
> 
> Are you taking smarty over?

Yes, as per http://bugs.debian.org/592797

> > > But this won't work automatically if plugins are installed in
> > > libs/plugins/. You will have to add a preinst snippet that moves files
> > > around...
> > 
> > /usr/share is the domain of the packaging system. So if there's anything
> > in libs/plugins, that is installed by another package and we should
> > rather not be moving that around in preinst. Those packages should be
> > updated instead, no? You indicate this already for smarty-gettext and
> > smarty-validate.
> 
> Yes, they must be updated instead. Smarty will have to add
> conflicts:/breaks: statements to ensure they are upgraded.
> 
> But there's the possibility that some plugins have been manually installed
> by the user.
> 
> With breaks, you would have to setup the symlink in postinst because
> that's the only point where you can be sure that the other packages have
> been upgraded.
> 
> With conflicts, you know in preinst already that other packages have been
> removed or upgraded already and you can deal with the symlink there in
> that case.

Yes. This would mean that if there are locally created Debian packages of 
those plugins then we would also be fiddling with their content. But perhaps 
there's no "perfect" solution and moving things over is the best of both 
options.


Cheers,
Thijs




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Bug#514305: smarty: Please sync the install path with Ubuntu

2010-08-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
> I agree that given that Ubuntu has made this rather poor decision, we're only 
> left with this inelegant way forward to unify the packages again. Obviously 
> we 
> cannot have this changed for Squeeze anymore, so it'll have to be postponed 
> for a bit.

Are you taking smarty over?

> > But this won't work automatically if plugins are installed in libs/plugins/.
> > You will have to add a preinst snippet that moves files around...
> 
> /usr/share is the domain of the packaging system. So if there's anything in 
> libs/plugins, that is installed by another package and we should rather not 
> be 
> moving that around in preinst. Those packages should be updated instead, no? 
> You indicate this already for smarty-gettext and smarty-validate.

Yes, they must be updated instead. Smarty will have to add
conflicts:/breaks: statements to ensure they are upgraded.

But there's the possibility that some plugins have been manually installed
by the user.

With breaks, you would have to setup the symlink in postinst because
that's the only point where you can be sure that the other packages have
been upgraded.

With conflicts, you know in preinst already that other packages have been
removed or upgraded already and you can deal with the symlink there in
that case.

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Bug#514305: smarty: Please sync the install path with Ubuntu

2010-08-12 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi Raphaël,

> It was a poor choice of Ubuntu to diverge here... anyway I agree that at
> this point it's best if Debian updates his package to use the new path.
> It should however add some transition symlink /usr/share/php/smarty/libs
> -> /usr/share/php/smarty to avoid breaking instantly.

I agree that given that Ubuntu has made this rather poor decision, we're only 
left with this inelegant way forward to unify the packages again. Obviously we 
cannot have this changed for Squeeze anymore, so it'll have to be postponed 
for a bit.

> But this won't work automatically if plugins are installed in libs/plugins/.
> You will have to add a preinst snippet that moves files around...

/usr/share is the domain of the packaging system. So if there's anything in 
libs/plugins, that is installed by another package and we should rather not be 
moving that around in preinst. Those packages should be updated instead, no? 
You indicate this already for smarty-gettext and smarty-validate.


Cheers,
Thijs


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Bug#514305: smarty: Please sync the install path with Ubuntu

2009-06-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 06 Feb 2009, Francois Marier wrote:
> This causes smarty-enabled applications in Debian to fail on Ubuntu because 
> the
> include path is different. Two such packages are Moodle and Mahara. They 
> require Ubuntu
> customisations to work around the different paths.
> 
> I'm not sure what the right path is, but there was a discussion in the Ubuntu 
> tracker
> which referred to the upstream install guide:
> 
>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smarty/+bug/118793

It was a poor choice of Ubuntu to diverge here... anyway I agree that at
this point it's best if Debian updates his package to use the new path.
It should however add some transition symlink /usr/share/php/smarty/libs
-> /usr/share/php/smarty to avoid breaking instantly. But this won't work
automatically if plugins are installed in libs/plugins/. You will have to
add a preinst snippet that moves files around...

However when you do that, please inform me as smarty-gettext and
smarty-validate will have to be updated at the same time. You should add
Breaks: smarty-gettext (<= 1.0b1-3), smarty-validate (<= 2.9-1)
to ensure that those package are updated at the same time
(the minimal version might need to be updated when you do it)

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Bug#514305: smarty: Please sync the install path with Ubuntu

2009-02-05 Thread Francois Marier
Package: smarty
Version: 2.6.22-1
Severity: important

Currently, the Debian package for smarty installs it in:

  /usr/share/php/smarty/libs/

whereas the Ubuntu package install its files here:

  /usr/share/php/smarty/

This causes smarty-enabled applications in Debian to fail on Ubuntu because the
include path is different. Two such packages are Moodle and Mahara. They 
require Ubuntu
customisations to work around the different paths.

I'm not sure what the right path is, but there was a discussion in the Ubuntu 
tracker
which referred to the upstream install guide:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smarty/+bug/118793

Francois

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.27.13-grsec (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=fr_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages smarty depends on:
ii  php5-cli  5.2.6.dfsg.1-3 command-line interpreter for the p

smarty recommends no packages.

smarty suggests no packages.

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