Bug#526475: ampache does install 145 MByte including MySQL on an Embedded System

2009-05-02 Thread Charlie Smotherman
[...snip]
 Maybe I hit a but in apt-get because:
 

[ '/etc/apt/apt.conf' ]-
 APT::Get::Install-Recommendsfalse;
 APT::Get::Purge true;
 APT::Get::Fix-Brokentrue;
 APT::Get::Show-Upgraded true;
 APT::CDROM::Rename  true;
 Acquire::cdrom::mount   /media/cdrom;


 
 This is working on my workstation, but not on my Embedded System.
 
Could be that you have found a bug in apt-get?  If you feel you have
please report it.

[...snip]
 
 I do not know/understand WHY all peoples relaying on MySQL, where
since
 ages the problems are well  known.  Maybe  they  use  the
better/louder
 publicity like Debian/Ubuntu.  :-/
 
  http://ampache.org/bugs/ticket/446 
 
 Yes, but I am very angry about the MySQL stuff..

The way I look at it, it is a matter of choice.  You prefer postgres and
ampaches lead developer prefers mysql.  

Please leave your political, and flame war invoking statements off the
BTS as this is not the place for them.  You would be better severed by
raising your concerns about mysql on debian-dev

 Maybe he or we can look at PHP-PDO which then would be DB independant.
 
I'm sure if you approached ampaches lead developer in a more civilized
manner, he would probably be more than willing to explore the
possibilities of PHP-PDO with you.

Best Regards
Charlie


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Bug#526475: ampache does install 145 MByte including MySQL on an Embedded System

2009-05-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Package: ampache
Version: 3.4.1-2
Severity: major

Hello Maintainer,

according  to   the   Website   http://ampache.org/wiki/install:debian
ampache does NOT require the installation of MySQL but  on  my  embedded
i386 System with a 512 MByte NAND  Flash  it  try  to  and  enforce  the
installation of MySQL.  In summary 145 MByte!!!

Please can you correct this crap?

[ 'apt-get install ampache' ]---
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  defoma fontconfig-config intltool-debian javascript-common libdbd-mysql-perl 
libdbi-perl libfile-remove-perl libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgd2-xpm 
libhtml-template-perl
  libjpeg62 libjs-prototype libmail-box-perl libmail-sendmail-perl libmcrypt4 
libmime-types-perl libnet-daemon-perl libobject-realize-later-perl 
libphp-snoopy libplrpc-perl
  libpng12-0 libt1-5 libterm-readkey-perl libuser-identity-perl libxpm4 
mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 php5-cli php5-gd php5-mcrypt php5-mysql 
phpmyadmin po-debconf ttf-dejavu
  ttf-dejavu-core ttf-dejavu-extra wwwconfig-common
Suggested packages:
  defoma-doc dfontmgr psfontmgr x-ttcidfont-conf dbishell libfreetype6-dev 
libgd-tools libipc-sharedcache-perl libmail-imapclient-perl libmcrypt-dev 
mcrypt curl tinyca php-pear
  mysql-server mysql-client postgresql-client apache apache-ssl
Recommended packages:
  libft-perl
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ampache defoma fontconfig-config intltool-debian javascript-common 
libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libfile-remove-perl libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 
libgd2-xpm libhtml-template-perl
  libjpeg62 libjs-prototype libmail-box-perl libmail-sendmail-perl libmcrypt4 
libmime-types-perl libnet-daemon-perl libobject-realize-later-perl 
libphp-snoopy libplrpc-perl
  libpng12-0 libt1-5 libterm-readkey-perl libuser-identity-perl libxpm4 
mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 php5-cli php5-gd php5-mcrypt php5-mysql 
phpmyadmin po-debconf ttf-dejavu
  ttf-dejavu-core ttf-dejavu-extra wwwconfig-common
0 upgraded, 39 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 49.7MB of archives.
After this operation, 145MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.


I do not know a singel person which install on its own a MySQL server on
a System connected directly to the Internet.

My current MySQL which I was forced to install for  an  OnlineShop  (now
closed) has 18 grave/rc bugs and I was hacked over MySQL several times.

My PostgresQL (from Debian Lenny and 8.3) is running since 1999 with  an
open SSL port to the internet on a Dual-STM-4 (- 2 x 622 MBit)  without
being hacked, even if I have several 1000 hack attempts per day.

So, my feature request is to use PostgreSQL and of  course,  remote  SQL
server.  On the website it was write, it is posibel, but it seems I have
to recompile the whole bunch my own because potential security issues in
the Debian version because MySQL.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant


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Bug#526475: ampache does install 145 MByte including MySQL on an Embedded System

2009-05-01 Thread Charlie Smotherman
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 15:58 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 Package: ampache
 Version: 3.4.1-2
 Severity: major
 
 Hello Maintainer,
 
 according  to   the   Website   http://ampache.org/wiki/install:debian
 ampache does NOT require the installation of MySQL but  on  my  embedded
 i386 System with a 512 MByte NAND  Flash  it  try  to  and  enforce  the
 installation of MySQL.  In summary 145 MByte!!!
 
Thank you for bringing this to my attention.  Indeed mysql-server is in
the Recommends field of debian/control, I will demote mysql-server to
the Suggests field in Ampache-3.5 which is due to be released in the
coming weeks.

You should be able to use the --no-install-recommends option with
apt-get to prevent the installation of mysql-server.

 
 I do not know a singel person which install on its own a MySQL server on
 a System connected directly to the Internet.

Having Ampache not install mysql-server was actually suggested by the DD
who sponsors this package.  IMHO mysql-server upgrades should be done by
a system admin and not by a maintainer script.
 
 My current MySQL which I was forced to install for  an  OnlineShop  (now
 closed) has 18 grave/rc bugs and I was hacked over MySQL several times.

Hopefully these will be resolved soon.
 
 My PostgresQL (from Debian Lenny and 8.3) is running since 1999 with  an
 open SSL port to the internet on a Dual-STM-4 (- 2 x 622 MBit)  without
 being hacked, even if I have several 1000 hack attempts per day.
 
 So, my feature request is to use PostgreSQL and of  course,  remote  SQL
 server.  On the website it was write, it is posibel, but it seems I have
 to recompile the whole bunch my own because potential security issues in
 the Debian version because MySQL.
 
I would forward your request to the upstream developer, however it seems
that you have already contacted the upstream developer about this
feature request already.

http://ampache.org/bugs/ticket/446 

Best regards
Charlie


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