Bug#542671: vidalia: Should not suggest "update-rc.d -f" only

2009-09-27 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 06:11:20PM -0300, UlisesVitulli wrote:
> Hi Jeremy!

I only noticed your reply today.  Bug submitter do *not* receive emails
unless subscribed to the bug report, so you should keep the submitter
in To: or Cc: fields unless you are only discussing with package
maintainers.
 
> I've to say I'm fully aware about this problem, unfortunately, I'm
> almost sure policy is against of any interaction with other packages
> files than the ones carried by itself , in this case, tor's init
> scripts, so some kind of user-interaction must have to show up around
> this.

#542670 is indeed related.  I really think you should ask weasel his
opinion on this issue.  Please not that dkg also wrote on blog entry on
similar issues recently [1].  Maybe splitting the tor package between
"tor" and "tor-bin" could be a solution to the issue currently affecting
the vidalia package.

[1] http://www.debian-administration.org/users/dkg/weblog/53

Cheers,
-- 
Jérémy Bobbio.''`. 
lu...@debian.org: :Ⓐ  :  # apt-get install anarchism
`. `'` 
  `-   


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Bug#542671: vidalia: Should not suggest "update-rc.d -f" only

2009-08-20 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
Package: vidalia
Version: 0.1.15-1
Severity: normal

Hi!

In README.Debian, in order to prevent Tor to start automatically at boot
time, it is suggested to use:
   # update-rc.d -f tor remove

This suggestion is a bad one.  When startup links are removed this way,
they will be created again on the next upgrade (or reinstallation) of
the tor package.  Thus enabling it again on startup.

Using the "disable" option of "update-rc.d" would probably be a
better suggestion, here.


But maybe it would be more user friendly to either:

 a) Ask (through debconf) about disabling Tor startup links; with
"no" as a default; and do it in the postinst script.
 b) Change tor init script so that it does not start the daemon itself
when a specific setting (maybe in /etc/default/vidalia) is set.
This setting value could be asked through debconf as well.

I am unsure about how policy compliant is option a).  Option b) would
need coordination with weasel (tor's package maintainer).

Feel free to clone this bug to follow up on the previous ideas.

Cheers,
-- 
Jérémy Bobbio.''`. 
lu...@debian.org: :Ⓐ  :  # apt-get install anarchism
`. `'` 
  `-   


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Bug#542671: vidalia: Should not suggest "update-rc.d -f" only

2009-08-23 Thread UlisesVitulli
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

tags 542671 confirmed
thanks

Hi Jeremy!

I've to say I'm fully aware about this problem, unfortunately, I'm
almost sure policy is against of any interaction with other packages
files than the ones carried by itself , in this case, tor's init
scripts, so some kind of user-interaction must have to show up around
this.

I'm trying to find out a possible nicer solution in the meantime.


Thanks!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
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=ACse
-END PGP SIGNATURE-




smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Bug#542671: Re: Bug#542671: vidalia: Should not suggest "update-rc.d -f" only

2009-12-20 Thread UlisesVitulli
Jérémy Bobbio escribió:
> I only noticed your reply today. Bug submitter do *not* receive emails
> unless subscribed to the bug report, so you should keep the submitter
> in To: or Cc: fields unless you are only discussing with package
> maintainers.
Sorry about the misunderstanding, I might have been in a rush when I
answered to the BTS and forgot to check that.

> #542670 is indeed related. I really think you should ask weasel his
> opinion on this issue. Please not that dkg also wrote on blog entry on
> similar issues recently [1]. Maybe splitting the tor package between
> "tor" and "tor-bin" could be a solution to the issue currently affecting
> the vidalia package.
Thank you very much for the information, I found it really interesting
indeed!
I've indeed contacted Weasel already so we could end up with a widely
useful solution, not only for Vidalia, but for any other Tor GUI
application out there.

Greetings,




signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature