Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
hi, what is the purpose of 'libsdl1.2debian' ? answer: any other packages (such as mplayer) that uses SDL declares a dependency on 'libsdl1.2debian', instead of listing a complete list of subdependencies; the good point is that, if SDL changes its list of audio plugins, there is no reason to recompile lots of other packages just to add that specific plugin to the list of dependencies. Usually the above behaviour is obtained by using a virtual package, but in the case of SDL they used a dummy package. Look at this: # apt-cache rdepends libsdl1.2debian | sort -u | wc -l 333 #apt-cache rdepends libsdl1.2debian-oss libsdl1.2debian-oss Reverse Depends: libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio libsdl1.2debian-nas libsdl1.2debian-esd libsdl1.2debian-arts libsdl1.2debian-alsa libsdl1.2debian-all |libsdl1.2debian As you see all packages that use SDL depend on 'libsdl1.2debian' whereas no one depends on the audio plugins. I did the above in a Debian/Lenny install; and I did not hear of any change for Squeeze. I see no reason why mplayer should be the only package in 332 packages to link to plugins, as you ask. a. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 12:22:39PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote: As said: I'me not sure if libsdl1.2-dev creates the wrong dep line for mplayer or if this is a bug in mplayer. I suggest to clarify this with the SDL maintainers. the only sensible thing I can think of is that you may post a wishlist bug and ask that libsdl1.2debian be converted into a virtual package a. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 11:13 +0200, A Mennucc wrote: On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 12:22:39PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote: As said: I'me not sure if libsdl1.2-dev creates the wrong dep line for mplayer or if this is a bug in mplayer. I suggest to clarify this with the SDL maintainers. the only sensible thing I can think of is that you may post a wishlist bug and ask that libsdl1.2debian be converted into a virtual package This is not a bug anywhere. The dummy package exists (instead of a virtual package) so that there is a version people can depend on. Versioned provides are not supported by dpkg. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
On 04.09.09 Christophe Mutricy (xto...@chewa.net) wrote: Le Fri 04 Sep 09 à 19:05 +0200, Hilmar Preusse a écrit : On 04.09.09 Reimar Döffinger (reimar.doeffin...@gmx.de) wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:19:28PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote: Hi, your package actually depends on the dummy package libsdl1.2debian. Please link with one of the other packages provided by the source package: [...] Uh, why? The libsdl1.2debian package is exactly the right one, since any of the above are ok. The package you link against is a dummy package: [...] Linking against it doesn't make any sense. I guess the next rebuild will change the dep anyway. Further discussions regarding this should be addressed to the SDL maintainers. We don't link to a package. We depend on it. And we don't depend on the dummy one to let the user choose which of the libsdl1.2debian-* he wants to use according to the sound system he use. I'm sorry, I didn't use the right wording: linking against a package not having any usable data (except changelog etc.) is not possible. So mplayer depends on a dummy package. Furthermore, we don't force on what package we depends. It's all comes from the .shlibs file of libsdl1.2-debian. Which, IMHO, correctly has libsdl1.2debian in it. On my system libsdl1.2-debian does not provide a shlibs file: hi...@sid:~ $ ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/libsdl1.2debian*shlibs -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 97 2009-03-12 02:05 /var/lib/dpkg/info/libsdl1.2debian-alsa.shlibs This file has the following content: hi...@sid:~ $ more /var/lib/dpkg/info/libsdl1.2debian-alsa.shlibs libSDL-1.2 0 libsdl1.2debian (= 1.2.10-1) udeb: libSDL-1.2 0 libsdl1.2debian-udeb (= 1.2.10-1) Not yure, how to interpret this content. So I think it's not a bug and an mplayer Uploader should close it. IF some people can demonstrate it's a bug, then it's a libsdl bug and not a mplayer bug. I still think it is a bug, but I am not sure in which package. - mplayer depends on a package not containing any usable data - that package depends on either: * libsdl1.2debian-alsa, * libsdl1.2debian-all, * libsdl1.2debian-esd, * libsdl1.2debian-arts, * libsdl1.2debian-oss, * libsdl1.2debian-nas or * libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio So I guess mplayer should declare the same deps. I have libsdl1.2debian-alsa on my system, but can't remove the dummy package. sid:~# dpkg -l libsdl1.2debian-alsa Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii libsdl1.2debia 1.2.13-4+b1Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA sid:~# apt-get --purge remove libsdl1.2debian Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: libsdl1.2debian* mplayer* 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. After this operation, 6,296kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort. As said: I'me not sure if libsdl1.2-dev creates the wrong dep line for mplayer or if this is a bug in mplayer. I suggest to clarify this with the SDL maintainers. Many thanks, Hilmar -- sigmentation fault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
Package: mplayer Version: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 Severity: normal Hi, your package actually depends on the dummy package libsdl1.2debian. Please link with one of the other packages provided by the source package: - libsdl1.2debian-alsa - libsdl1.2debian-all - libsdl1.2debian-esd - libsdl1.2debian-arts - libsdl1.2debian-oss - libsdl1.2debian-nas - libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio Thanks, Hilmar -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.30-1-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to en_GB.UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages mplayer depends on: ii debconf [debconf-2.0 1.5.27 Debian configuration management sy ii libasound2 1.0.20-4shared library for ALSA applicatio ii libatk1.0-0 1.26.0-1The ATK accessibility toolkit ii libaudio21.9.2-3 Network Audio System - shared libr ii libavcodec52 4:0.5+svn20090706-2 ffmpeg codec library ii libavformat524:0.5+svn20090706-2 ffmpeg file format library ii libavutil49 4:0.5+svn20090706-2 ffmpeg utility library ii libc62.9-26 GNU C Library: Shared libraries ii libcaca0 0.99.beta16-2 colour ASCII art library ii libcairo21.8.8-2 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libcdparanoia0 3.10.2+debian-8 audio extraction tool for sampling ii libdirectfb-1.2-01.2.8-4 direct frame buffer graphics - sha ii libesd0 0.2.41-5Enlightened Sound Daemon - Shared ii libfontconfig1 2.6.0-4 generic font configuration library ii libfreetype6 2.3.9-5 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libfribidi0 0.10.9-1Free Implementation of the Unicode ii libgcc1 1:4.4.1-3 GCC support library ii libgif4 4.1.6-8 library for GIF images (library) ii libgl1-mesa-glx [lib 7.5-3 A free implementation of the OpenG ii libglib2.0-0 2.20.5-1The GLib library of C routines ii libgtk2.0-0 2.16.6-1The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libjack0 0.116.2+svn3592-2 JACK Audio Connection Kit (librari ii libjpeg626b-15 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG ii liblircclient0 0.8.3-5 infra-red remote control support - ii liblzo2-22.03-1 data compression library ii libncurses5 5.7+20090803-2 shared libraries for terminal hand ii libogg0 1.1.4~dfsg-1Ogg bitstream library ii libopenal1 1:1.8.466-3 Software implementation of the Ope ii libpango1.0-01.24.5-1Layout and rendering of internatio ii libpng12-0 1.2.39-1PNG library - runtime ii libpostproc514:0.5+svn20090706-2 ffmpeg video postprocessing librar ii libpulse00.9.15-4.1 PulseAudio client libraries ii libsdl1.2debian 1.2.13-4+b1 Simple DirectMedia Layer ii libsmbclient 2:3.4.0-3 shared library for communication w ii libspeex11.2~rc1-1 The Speex codec runtime library ii libstdc++6 4.4.1-3 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libsvga1 1:1.4.3-27 console SVGA display libraries ii libswscale0 4:0.5+svn20090706-2 ffmpeg video scaling library ii libtheora0 1.0-2.1 The Theora Video Compression Codec ii libx11-6 2:1.2.2-1 X11 client-side library ii libxext6 2:1.0.4-1 X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxinerama1 2:1.0.3-2 X11 Xinerama extension library ii libxt6 1:1.0.6-1 X11 toolkit intrinsics library ii libxv1 2:1.0.4-1 X11 Video extension library ii libxvmc1 1:1.0.4-2 X11 Video extension library ii libxxf86dga1 2:1.0.2-1 X11 Direct Graphics Access extensi ii libxxf86vm1 1:1.0.2-1 X11 XFree86 video mode extension l ii mplayer-skin-blue [m 1.6-2 blue skin for mplayer ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-15 compression library - runtime mplayer recommends no packages. Versions of packages mplayer suggests: ii bzip2 1.0.5-3high-quality block-sorting file co ii fontconfig2.6.0-4generic font configuration library pn mplayer-doc none (no description available) pn netselect | fping none (no description available) pn ttf-freefont none (no description available) -- debconf information: mplayer/voutput: autodetect mplayer/ttfont:
Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:19:28PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote: Package: mplayer Version: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 Severity: normal Hi, your package actually depends on the dummy package libsdl1.2debian. Please link with one of the other packages provided by the source package: - libsdl1.2debian-alsa - libsdl1.2debian-all - libsdl1.2debian-esd - libsdl1.2debian-arts - libsdl1.2debian-oss - libsdl1.2debian-nas - libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio Uh, why? The libsdl1.2debian package is exactly the right one, since any of the above are ok. Unless you want every package to hard-code that any of these is fine, which I think is really silly because each time a new libsdl1.2debian-* package gets added the dependencies of all packages using libsdl need to be updated... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
On 04.09.09 Reimar Döffinger (reimar.doeffin...@gmx.de) wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:19:28PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote: Hi, your package actually depends on the dummy package libsdl1.2debian. Please link with one of the other packages provided by the source package: - libsdl1.2debian-alsa - libsdl1.2debian-all - libsdl1.2debian-esd - libsdl1.2debian-arts - libsdl1.2debian-oss - libsdl1.2debian-nas - libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio Uh, why? The libsdl1.2debian package is exactly the right one, since any of the above are ok. The package you link against is a dummy package: hi...@sid:~ $ dpkg -L libsdl1.2debian /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/libsdl1.2debian /usr/share/doc/libsdl1.2debian/BUGS /usr/share/doc/libsdl1.2debian/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/libsdl1.2debian/CREDITS /usr/share/doc/libsdl1.2debian/README-SDL.txt /usr/share/doc/libsdl1.2debian/copyright /usr/share/doc/libsdl1.2debian/README Linking against it doesn't make any sense. I guess the next rebuild will change the dep anyway. Further discussions regarding this should be addressed to the SDL maintainers. H. -- sigmentation fault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#544990: mplayer: Mplayer depends on dummy package libsdl1.2debian
Hello, Le Fri 04 Sep 09 à 19:05 +0200, Hilmar Preusse a écrit : d On 04.09.09 Reimar Döffinger (reimar.doeffin...@gmx.de) wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:19:28PM +0200, Hilmar Preusse wrote: your package actually depends on the dummy package libsdl1.2debian. Please link with one of the other packages provided by the source package: [...] Uh, why? The libsdl1.2debian package is exactly the right one, since any of the above are ok. The package you link against is a dummy package: [...] Linking against it doesn't make any sense. I guess the next rebuild will change the dep anyway. Further discussions regarding this should be addressed to the SDL maintainers. We don't link to a package. We depend on it. And we don't depend on the dummy one to let the user choose which of the libsdl1.2debian-* he wants to use according to the sound system he use. So I agree with Heimar that it is correct. Furthermore, we don't force on what package we depends. It's all comes from the .shlibs file of libsdl1.2-debian. Which, IMHO, correctly has libsdl1.2debian in it. The only possible alternative I see is to have the whole list of libsdl1.2debian-* in the shlibs file. but i doesn't bring anything more and complicate maintenance. So I think it's not a bug and an mplayer Uploader should close it. IF some people can demonstrate it's a bug, then it's a libsdl bug and not a mplayer bug. Regards -- Xtophe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
