Bug#551300: java-common: policy mandates java?-runtime even for headless packages

2009-10-17 Thread Niels Thykier
brian m. carlson wrote:
 Package: java-common
 Version: 0.33
 Severity: normal
 
 The Debian Java Policy, which is present in this package, states (§2.3):
 
   Programs must depend on java-virtual-machine and the needed runtime
   environment (java1-runtime and/or java2-runtime).
 
 (Similar text is present in §2.1 and §2.2.)
 
 This is problematic, because this pulls in a huge number of dependencies
 that are unneeded for packages that run headless.  For openjdk-6, which
 is the default runtime on amd64, this involves the installation of the
 entirety of GTK and its associated libraries, which are not needed on
 machines that have neither a monitor nor an X server, such as servers.
 
 Please fix the policy so that it does not mandate the installation of a
 full JRE when a headless JRE would suffice.  This is priority normal
 because it requires every Java program or library to depend on lots of
 code that has no place on a server.
 
 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: squeeze/sid
   APT prefers unstable
   APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
 Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
 
 Kernel: Linux 2.6.31-trunk-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
 Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
 
 java-common depends on no packages.
 
 java-common recommends no packages.
 
 Versions of packages java-common suggests:
 ii  default-jre   1.6-33 Standard Java or Java compatible 
 R
 ii  equivs2.0.7-0.1  Circumvent Debian package 
 dependen
 
 -- no debconf information
 

Hi Brian

We are working on updating the policy to better fit the current times.
If you look at packages such libgnujmi-java [1], we are already
extending the interpretation of this particularly cause to allow the
headless versions.

If you are interested, you can see a draft of the coming policy here[2].
Though there will be changes in that draft based on this feedback [3].

~Niels
[1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/libgnujmi-java
[2] http://www.student.dtu.dk/~s072425/debian/policy/
[3]
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg698708.html



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Bug#551300: java-common: policy mandates java?-runtime even for headless packages

2009-10-16 Thread brian m. carlson
Package: java-common
Version: 0.33
Severity: normal

The Debian Java Policy, which is present in this package, states (§2.3):

  Programs must depend on java-virtual-machine and the needed runtime
  environment (java1-runtime and/or java2-runtime).

(Similar text is present in §2.1 and §2.2.)

This is problematic, because this pulls in a huge number of dependencies
that are unneeded for packages that run headless.  For openjdk-6, which
is the default runtime on amd64, this involves the installation of the
entirety of GTK and its associated libraries, which are not needed on
machines that have neither a monitor nor an X server, such as servers.

Please fix the policy so that it does not mandate the installation of a
full JRE when a headless JRE would suffice.  This is priority normal
because it requires every Java program or library to depend on lots of
code that has no place on a server.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.31-trunk-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

java-common depends on no packages.

java-common recommends no packages.

Versions of packages java-common suggests:
ii  default-jre   1.6-33 Standard Java or Java compatible R
ii  equivs2.0.7-0.1  Circumvent Debian package dependen

-- no debconf information

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