Bug#552406: Bug#552402: etherboot: separate package for roms useful to qemu/kvm
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:56:22PM +0200, RISKÓ Gergely wrote: > > I see now reasons why they wouldn't switch, though maybe with some > > delay. > > So Vagrant: is it OK for you if we don't solve this for etherboot? i think it would still make sense for etherboot to ship the appropriate roms uncompressed, as it may be a while before gPXE hits the Debian archive. live well, vagrant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#552406: Bug#552402: etherboot: separate package for roms useful to qemu/kvm
RISKÓ Gergely wrote: Hi, What about KVM? Does it do the same as QEMU and will change to PXE? kvm *is* qemu. Stable series (qemu-kvm) of kvm are based on stable series of qemu. But it does not really matter. It's more: I don't quite understand what are you talking about "change to gPXE" (you probably mean gPXE, not PXE). I mean, qemu (and kvm which is the same) ships ready-to-use pre-built pxe boot roms in the source tarball. That's what they mean when saying about the switch from etherboot to gpxe. But on Debian, these binaries are not used anyway, so it's completely irrelevant what the upstream does with these. Regardless, the NICs emulated are more or less standard and they will work with either etherboot or gpxe or even with vendor- supplied boot roms (from realtek, intel and so on). /mjt Gergely On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:35:43 +0100, Aurelien Jarno writes: On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 08:40:12PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:58:08PM +0200, RISKÓ Gergely wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:36:01 -0700, Vagrant Cascadian writes: If I understand correctly, the problems are: - etherboot ships with rom.gz, which is not usable by qemu, (major) - etherboot installed package size is 32MB (minor). Please note that QEMU 0.12.0 will use gPXE instead of etherboot, so maybe we should just close/reassign the bug? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#552402: Bug#552406: Bug#552402: etherboot: separate package for roms useful to qemu/kvm
Hi, > I see now reasons why they wouldn't switch, though maybe with some > delay. So Vagrant: is it OK for you if we don't solve this for etherboot? Gergely -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#552406: Bug#552402: etherboot: separate package for roms useful to qemu/kvm
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 01:21:04PM +0200, RISKÓ Gergely wrote: > Hi, > > What about KVM? Does it do the same as QEMU and will change to PXE? > I see now reasons why they wouldn't switch, though maybe with some delay. > > On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:35:43 +0100, Aurelien Jarno > writes: > > > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 08:40:12PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:58:08PM +0200, RISKÓ Gergely wrote: > >> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:36:01 -0700, Vagrant Cascadian > >> > writes: > >> > If I understand correctly, the problems are: > >> >- etherboot ships with rom.gz, which is not usable by qemu, (major) > >> >- etherboot installed package size is 32MB (minor). > >> > > > > Please note that QEMU 0.12.0 will use gPXE instead of etherboot, so > > maybe we should just close/reassign the bug? > -- Aurelien Jarno GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 aurel...@aurel32.net http://www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#552402: Bug#552406: Bug#552402: etherboot: separate package for roms useful to qemu/kvm
Hi, What about KVM? Does it do the same as QEMU and will change to PXE? Gergely On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:35:43 +0100, Aurelien Jarno writes: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 08:40:12PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:58:08PM +0200, RISKÓ Gergely wrote: >> > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:36:01 -0700, Vagrant Cascadian >> > writes: >> > If I understand correctly, the problems are: >> >- etherboot ships with rom.gz, which is not usable by qemu, (major) >> >- etherboot installed package size is 32MB (minor). >> > > Please note that QEMU 0.12.0 will use gPXE instead of etherboot, so > maybe we should just close/reassign the bug? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#552406: Bug#552402: etherboot: separate package for roms useful to qemu/kvm
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 08:40:12PM -0800, Vagrant Cascadian wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:58:08PM +0200, RISKÓ Gergely wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:36:01 -0700, Vagrant Cascadian > > writes: > > If I understand correctly, the problems are: > >- etherboot ships with rom.gz, which is not usable by qemu, (major) > >- etherboot installed package size is 32MB (minor). > Please note that QEMU 0.12.0 will use gPXE instead of etherboot, so maybe we should just close/reassign the bug? -- Aurelien Jarno GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 aurel...@aurel32.net http://www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#552406: Bug#552402: etherboot: separate package for roms useful to qemu/kvm
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:58:08PM +0200, RISKÓ Gergely wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:36:01 -0700, Vagrant Cascadian > writes: > If I understand correctly, the problems are: >- etherboot ships with rom.gz, which is not usable by qemu, (major) >- etherboot installed package size is 32MB (minor). sounds like a decent summary. > I don't think we have to solve the second point, everyone who is using a > virtualization system can afford the files to be installed, i've definitely ran very useful virtual machines with very limited disk space, though that may be relatively unusual. > I think a new binary package is a bigger bloat in this case. (For everyone, > even for users, who doesn't know or care about what etherboot or qemu/kvm > is.) while i can see your point, i've always appreciated that Debian tends to have a finer granularity of packages than other distributions, when splitting a package out is useful... > We can solve the first problem in different ways: >- via a new binary package which contains the mentioned roms > uncompressed, >- adding libz support to qemu, (how hard this would be?) >- ship the mentioned roms in the etherboot package uncompressed. > > If option 2 is too hard, I prefer option 3. What is your opinion, it is > a little change in the binary package, nobody will really notice and > only affect people who have etherboot installed. it seems like shipping those few roms uncompressed in the current etherboot package would mostly solve the issue for qemu, though adding a moderately large depends/recommends in the process. i don't really know how difficult it would be to add support for compressed roms to qemu or kvm, nor do i probably have the know-how to add support for it, even if it were easy. i did propose another possibility that qemu could depend or recommend etherboot, and uncompress the roms during package installation/upgrade, which has the disadvantage that the roms might get out of sync with etherboot if etherboot was upgraded after qemu was installed. though it would require no changes to etherboot. > After this change, kvm/qemu can recommmend on etherboot if they want to > use the roms for pxe support (or depend on it if having the roms are > mandatory for kvm/qemu to even start up). so any of these options could probably realistically address the compression issue for qemu, just not the size issues. my preference would still be for a separate package, but it's just a case of different priorities at that point. live well, vagrant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
