Bug#564914: openoffice.org-base: cannot save relationship diagram changes
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:02:26 +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: [...] > Brilliant. How should we then find out which differences cause it? > Why can't people just report bugs when it happens? I mean, how many > years went by since 2.0.0 which first introduced Base? (Hell, 2 Debian > stable releases) Many reasons come to mind, but in my experience: the user is expected to study the bug in greatest detail, often beyond his(her) understanding of the program, almost be able to fix the bug him(her)self and send a patch before reporting it, or else the developer answers with an angry or insulting response, as if the report was meant to be trash to annoy the developer. So many people probably wait to become nearly experts in the program before they can communicate a bug report. I understand your frustration, but with the distinction between user/developer getting blurred as users become more and more savvy with programming and software development, there needs to be more tolerance and guidance to encourage users to report what they think is not working as expected. Sure, there are lazy users that don't do their homework, but many intelligent and inquisitive users get turned off by the response their reports get. > Sure recipe to get a bug lingering around for infinity with no/no > visible progress. >> user's dba.openoffice.org mailing list (subject: saving relationship >> diagram across sessions), where we found that the problem only exists >> in the Debian package. >> Briefly, any work done on the visual arrangement of the tables, size, >> position, etc. is lost after closing the relation designer window. > Please try OOo 3.2 rc1 (well, better rc2 but that's only building > right now), too. Not much hope it'll work there but you never know and > I concenreate on 3.2 right now anyway. I'll wait for the release, I can live without this feature for now. -- Seb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#564914: openoffice.org-base: cannot save relationship diagram changes
Hi, On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:16:24AM -0600, Sebastian Luque wrote: > I've experienced this problem ever since the first time I've used > openoffice.org in Debian, many years ago. I've had an exchange in the Brilliant. How should we then find out which differences cause it? Why can't people just report bugs when it happens? I mean, how many years went by since 2.0.0 which first introduced Base? (Hell, 2 Debian stable releases) Sure recipe to get a bug lingering around for infinity with no/no visible progress. > user's dba.openoffice.org mailing list (subject: saving relationship > diagram across sessions), where we found that the problem only exists in > the Debian package. > > Briefly, any work done on the visual arrangement of the tables, size, > position, etc. is lost after closing the relation designer window. Please try OOo 3.2 rc1 (well, better rc2 but that's only building right now), too. Not much hope it'll work there but you never know and I concenreate on 3.2 right now anyway. Grüße/Regards, Rene -- .''`. René Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer : :' : http://www.debian.org | http://people.debian.org/~rene/ `. `' r...@debian.org | GnuPG-Key ID: D03E3E70 `- Fingerprint: E12D EA46 7506 70CF A960 801D 0AA0 4571 D03E 3E70 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#564914: openoffice.org-base: cannot save relationship diagram changes
Package: openoffice.org-base Version: 1:3.1.1-12 Severity: normal Hi, I've experienced this problem ever since the first time I've used openoffice.org in Debian, many years ago. I've had an exchange in the user's dba.openoffice.org mailing list (subject: saving relationship diagram across sessions), where we found that the problem only exists in the Debian package. Briefly, any work done on the visual arrangement of the tables, size, position, etc. is lost after closing the relation designer window. -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (990, 'unstable'), (500, 'oldstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages openoffice.org-base depends on: ii default-jre [java5-run 1.6-34Standard Java or Java compatible R ii libc6 2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libgcc11:4.4.2-9 GCC support library ii libhsqldb-java 1.8.0.10-6Java SQL database engine ii libstdc++6 4.4.2-9 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii openjdk-6-jre [java5-r 6b17~pre3-1 OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspo ii openoffice.org-base-co 1:3.1.1-12full-featured office productivity ii openoffice.org-core1:3.1.1-12full-featured office productivity ii openoffice.org-java-co 1:3.1.1-12full-featured office productivity ii sun-java6-jre [java5-r 6-17-1Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment ( ii ure1.5.1+OOo3.1.1-12 OpenOffice.org UNO runtime environ openoffice.org-base recommends no packages. Versions of packages openoffice.org-base suggests: ii libmyodbc3.51.27r695-1 the MySQL ODBC driver ii libmysql-jav 5.1.10+dfsg-2 Java database (JDBC) driver for My ii libpg-java 8.4-701-1 Java database (JDBC) driver for Po ii mdbtools 0.5.99.0.6pre1.0.20051109-6 JET / MS Access database (MDB) too ii odbc-postgre 1:08.03.0200-1 ODBC driver for PostgreSQL pn openoffice.o (no description available) ii openoffice.o 1:1.1.0+OOo3.1.1-12 OpenOffice.org extension for build ii unixodbc 2.2.11-21 ODBC tools libraries Versions of packages openoffice.org-core depends on: ii fontconfig 2.8.0-2 generic font configuration library ii libc6 2.10.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libcairo2 1.8.8-2 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libcurl3-gnutls7.19.7-1 Multi-protocol file transfer libra ii libdb4.8 4.8.26-1 Berkeley v4.8 Database Libraries [ ii libexpat1 2.0.1-7 XML parsing C library - runtime li ii libfreetype6 2.3.11-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgcc11:4.4.2-9 GCC support library ii libglib2.0-0 2.22.3-2 The GLib library of C routines ii libgstreamer-plugins-b 0.10.25-7 GStreamer libraries from the "base ii libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.25-4+b1 Core GStreamer libraries and eleme ii libgtk2.0-02.18.5-1 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libhunspell-1.2-0 1.2.8-5 spell checker and morphological an ii libhyphen0 2.4-6 ALTLinux hyphenation library - sha ii libice62:1.0.6-1 X11 Inter-Client Exchange library ii libicu42 4.2.1-3 International Components for Unico ii libjpeg62 6b-15 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG ii libldap-2.4-2 2.4.17-2.1OpenLDAP libraries ii libneon27-gnutls 0.29.0-1 An HTTP and WebDAV client library ii libnspr4-0d4.8.2-1 NetScape Portable Runtime Library ii libnss3-1d 3.12.5-1 Network Security Service libraries ii librdf01.0.10-1 Redland Resource Description Frame ii libsm6 2:1.1.1-1 X11 Session Management library ii libstdc++6 4.4.2-9 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libx11-6 2:1.3.2-1 X11 client-side library ii libxaw72:1.0.7-1 X11 Athena Widget library ii libxext6 2:1.1.1-2 X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxinerama1 2:1.1-2 X11 Xinerama extension library ii libxml22.7.6.dfsg-1 GNOME XML library ii libxrandr2 2:1.3.0-2 X11 RandR extension library ii libxrender11:0.9.5-1 X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxslt1.1 1.1.26-1 XSLT processing library - runtime ii libxt6
