Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before trying to upload it to Debian. This is a native package. 0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :). The maintainer is currently set as Ubuntu Installer Team as these Ubuntu Debian Developers have actually created and maintained this package. Actually, this is a bug. It should be the usb-creator-hackers team now. Fixed. As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields. Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the usb-creator-hackers team. I'd really like to avoid having a delta between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible. * .desktop files: - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear in System/Administration as using it does not have an effect on the local system. I'd rather put it in Application/System tools. What do you think about this? It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system. There are other applications in System-Administration that are similar in nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest). Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications in Debian? You don't specify that something goes into the Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of categories it falls under. So if you're seeing different behavior for similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:10, Evan Dandrea e...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before trying to upload it to Debian. This is a native package. 0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :). I should at least be tagged as so in its bzr main branch, before being released. Also, Dmitrijs told me this afternoon, that the plan was to release the version on Debian, so that it would get synchronized to Ubuntu. Is that right? As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields. Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the usb-creator-hackers team. I'd really like to avoid having a delta between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible. Having different maintainers on Debian and Ubuntu is not an important delta. Of course, it is helpful to have somebody from the team co-maintaining the package in Debian. Also, I don't see the inconvenient in keeping the Maintainer field as is (i.e. usb-creator Hackers Team) and listing Dmitrijs and myself in the Uploaders list for the Debian package. * .desktop files: - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear in System/Administration as using it does not have an effect on the local system. I'd rather put it in Application/System tools. What do you think about this? It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system. There are other applications in System-Administration that are similar in nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest). Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications in Debian? You don't specify that something goes into the Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of categories it falls under. So if you're seeing different behavior for similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong. What I am trying to say, is that usb-creator is a sort of USB-writer application more than a local system configuration application. For instance, you do not need root privileges to run usb-creator; whereas GParted asks for the administrative password when launched from the System - Administration menu. Also, in Debian, Disk Utility (palimpsest) appears in Application/System tools: -8-8- ~$ cat /usr/share/applications/palimpsest.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Disk Utility (...) Categories=GNOME;GTK;System; -8-8- This is why, I would rather see the usb-creator's menu shortcut in Application/System tools. Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576359: [Usb-creator-hackers] Bug#576359: Bug#582884: ITP: usb-creator -- Live USB creator
On 26 May 2010 23:50, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:10, Evan Dandrea e...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Ignace Mouzannar mouzan...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent job. Howerver, it seems that the version 0.2.23 has not been released by upstream yet. I prefer waiting for the new release before trying to upload it to Debian. This is a native package. 0.2.23 will be released when it's uploaded :). I should at least be tagged as so in its bzr main branch, before being released. Also, Dmitrijs told me this afternoon, that the plan was to release the version on Debian, so that it would get synchronized to Ubuntu. Is that right? Depends. For general uploads there are no reasons to not do that. If Ubuntu is close to different freezes/milestones there might be releases pushed to ubuntu e.g. 0.2.XXubuntuY but those would be hot-fixes for ubuntu something along the lines of 0day delay queue NMU. As we will be maintaining this package for Debian, we will set ourselves in the Maintainer and Uploaders fields. Is this necessary? I'm more than happy to add people to the usb-creator-hackers team. I'd really like to avoid having a delta between Debian and Ubuntu on this, if possible. Having different maintainers on Debian and Ubuntu is not an important delta. Of course, it is helpful to have somebody from the team co-maintaining the package in Debian. Also, I don't see the inconvenient in keeping the Maintainer field as is (i.e. usb-creator Hackers Team) and listing Dmitrijs and myself in the Uploaders list for the Debian package. * .desktop files: - I am not convinced that usb-creator's Desktop file should appear in System/Administration as using it does not have an effect on the local system. I'd rather put it in Application/System tools. What do you think about this? It has an effect on the devices attached to the local system. There are other applications in System-Administration that are similar in nature to usb-creator, such as GParted and Disk Utility (palimpsest). Does usb-creator not appear in the same menu as these two applications in Debian? You don't specify that something goes into the Administration menu in the XDG spec, but rather list a set of categories it falls under. So if you're seeing different behavior for similar programs, we might have the set of categories wrong. What I am trying to say, is that usb-creator is a sort of USB-writer application more than a local system configuration application. For instance, you do not need root privileges to run usb-creator; whereas Yes and no with respect to root privileges, depends on the PolicyKit setup on a particular machine. GParted asks for the administrative password when launched from the System - Administration menu. Also, in Debian, Disk Utility (palimpsest) appears in Application/System tools: User and groups doesn't ask for the password when you launch it from System - Administration and later depending on the requested task PolicyKit kicks in and might ask a password. -8-8- ~$ cat /usr/share/applications/palimpsest.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Disk Utility (...) Categories=GNOME;GTK;System; -8-8- This is why, I would rather see the usb-creator's menu shortcut in Application/System tools. I'm ok with implementing this as a Debian vendor modification ;-) Cheers, Ignace M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
