Bug#576424: reason?
On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 10:15:44PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
Not many time ago I was reading maint-guide to learn how to make my first
Debian package. Indeed, first pair of times it was totally new for me, but
very soon I got stuck at things that were not documented there. Some people of
communities which I participated in often argue that Debian maint-guide is
shorter than it can be.
I see.
Also, you mentioned dput's additional features, but for novices they are too
complex: uploads to mentors.d.n and official Debian archive (in case of DM)
should be signed, plus dupload have fully suitable config entries for them out
of the box.
dput have more goodies.
[DEFAULT]
[ftp-master]
[ftp-eu]
[ssh-upload]
[security-master]
[security-master-unembargoed]
[jp]This one is not active as I heard but listed.
[volatile]
[backports.org]
[ubuntu]
[revu]
[ppa]
[mentors]
[local]
dupload
$ grep cfg{ dupload.conf
$cfg{'ftp-master'} = {
$cfg{'anonymous-ftp-master'} = {
$cfg{'volatile'} = {
$cfg{'delayed'} = {
$cfg{'mentors'} = {
$cfg{'bpo'} = {
#$cfg{'security'} = {
#$cfg{'anonymous-security'} = {
clearly, dput has better default support.
Please note I am and have been a user of dupload..
Osamu
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Bug#576424: reason?
Hi, I am not too keen on information overload. On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 06:38:36PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: [ Disclaimer: I don't maintain nor dput nor dupload ] [ Disclaimer 2: This is not a threat mail. I took the opportunity to thank the maintainers of this package for care: thanks you!, but I don't understand a logic behind this report] Thanks for your interest. Hi Osamu, Although I use dupload, dput must have done somthing right. Next two questions are just out of curiosity. So do you want to move to other software just because it has more popcon votes? Also, do you think that better popcon votes means better quality? As I said, there must be something dput has done better to gain such momentum. dupload was 20% more until April 2008. dupload initialy takes off but stalls and stay flat. dput was more than dupload in July 2008 and kept going. Debian Lenny was from February 2008. Ubuntu 8.04 LTSHardy Heron 2008-04-24 As I review dput now: * more natural configuration file format * dcut * support for non-signed upload. * better support for different types of Debian like archives including Ubuntu. * product marketing to Ubuntu folks :-) (Just guessing) * More package update Any objection? I don't see a reason to document dput *instead of* dupload. Maybe it'd be better to document dput *in addition to* dupload? This is tutorial document. We should avoid documenting all. My recent addition to the debhelper packaging tutorial section with recent capabilities made this document big enough. My thought is switch weight between dput and dupload. I am not goint to drop dupload completely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#576424: reason?
Osamu Aoki wrote: I don't see a reason to document dput *instead of* dupload. Maybe it'd be better to document dput *in addition to* dupload? This is tutorial document. We should avoid documenting all. My recent addition to the debhelper packaging tutorial section with recent capabilities made this document big enough. My thought is switch weight between dput and dupload. I am not goint to drop dupload completely. Thanks for explanation. Just in case, here is some my thoughts. Not many time ago I was reading maint-guide to learn how to make my first Debian package. Indeed, first pair of times it was totally new for me, but very soon I got stuck at things that were not documented there. Some people of communities which I participated in often argue that Debian maint-guide is shorter than it can be. Also, you mentioned dput's additional features, but for novices they are too complex: uploads to mentors.d.n and official Debian archive (in case of DM) should be signed, plus dupload have fully suitable config entries for them out of the box. My 2 eurocents. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#576424: reason?
[ Disclaimer: I don't maintain nor dput nor dupload ] [ Disclaimer 2: This is not a threat mail. I took the opportunity to thank the maintainers of this package for care: thanks you!, but I don't understand a logic behind this report] Hi Osamu, Although I use dupload, dput must have done somthing right. Next two questions are just out of curiosity. So do you want to move to other software just because it has more popcon votes? Also, do you think that better popcon votes means better quality? Any objection? I don't see a reason to document dput *instead of* dupload. Maybe it'd be better to document dput *in addition to* dupload? -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Developer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
