Bug#579938:
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Bug#579938:
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Bug#579938: [vlc-plugin-jack] Disconnects between tracks/songs
On Sunday 02 May 2010 22:17:40 Adrian Knoth wrote: On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 06:01:09PM +0300, David Baron wrote: I need to connect vlc###-system in the qjackctl connection pane to hear music. At each track playing an audio-CD, for example, it disconnects and I need to reconnect to hear music. Not a desirable behavior! Shouldn't it be sufficient to go to the preference menu, select Show all settings, then choose Audio/Output modules/JACK and say connect to clients matching with or without automatically connect to writable clients? This, once found, works just fine! No need to touch qjackctl at all. Glad it worked. ;) Question is: what should be the default mode when jackd is found running on program start (which would busy up alsa)? I think it should simply play. At worst, auto-connect should be in the simple options and default checked. I expected this proposal, and I think it's wrong. The point is: jack is not a tool for ordinary desktop users but targeted at professional music production. Jack is not supposed to run as a desktop sound server, this is what pulseaudio is for. Consequently, there is no sensible default where to connect. Physical outs? Or some FX-chain in advance? Or no connection at all, because the output will be fed to a streaming server? And BTW: a running jackd doesn't imply that ALSA is busy. Normally, there is a dedicated (separate) professional audio card in a jackd setup that's connected to the studio. And if you run jackd in dummy mode, no soundcard at all would be occupied. BTW: Unless you really need to separate the vlc outputs from all other system outputs, I recommend using the pulseaudio audio plugin instead and then use pulseaudio-module-jack to bridge to jackd. This way, your connections are always on, no need to mess with qjackctl at all. ;) I wish pulse was up to snuff but it is just too troublesome. Someday. You think so? I claim that's FUD. If something isn't working, file a bug report against pulseaudio or the application in question. To me, it works like a charm, vlc, skype, flash, mplayer and the lot all outputting to pulseaudio which then feeds everything to jackd. Way more stable than the libasound2-jackd-alsa bridge. And make sure to try the DBUS interface support in current qjackctl. (setup/Misc-tab). This might be especially useful in your single card setup: with DBUS support, jackd2 (then jackdbus) talks to pulseaudio, and pulseaudio will release the soundcard, so jackd can be started. In other words, pulseaudio and jackd hand over the card to each other. No need to look for and shutdown all the apps that prevent jackd from starting. You should really give it a whirl. I never want to go back. OK, fair enough. However, if there is no jack running, the option should have no effect so so what? For pulseaudio FUD, it seems that a good part of the linux audio community dislikes pulse and is circulating this message. One probably can live without jack and pulse simply to listen to mp3s and streams. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#579938: [vlc-plugin-jack] Disconnects between tracks/songs
Package: vlc-plugin-jack Version: 1.0.6-1 Severity: normal --- Please enter the report below this line. --- I need to connect vlc###-system in the qjackctl connection pane to hear music. At each track playing an audio-CD, for example, it disconnects and I need to reconnect to hear music. Not a desirable behavior! --- System information. --- Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-davidb Debian Release: squeeze/sid 990 unstablewww.debian-multimedia.org 990 unstableftp.fr.debian.org 990 unstabledebian.tagancha.org 990 unstabledebian.scribus.net 990 unstabledebian.pengutronix.de 990 unstabledebian.co.il 650 testing security.debian.org 650 testing debian.co.il 500 stable security.debian.org 500 stable dl.google.com 500 stable debian.co.il 500 stable deb.opera.com 500 oldstable debian.systs.org 500 kernel-dists-trunk kernel-archive.buildserver.net 500 karmic ppa.launchpad.net 500 intrepidppa.launchpad.net 500 experimentalansani.it 101 experimental-snapshots qt-kde.debian.net 1 experimentalftp.debian.org --- Package information. --- Depends(Version) | Installed -+-=== vlc-nox (= 1.0.6-1) | 1.0.6-1 libc6 (= 2.3.4) | 2.10.2-6 libjack0 (= 0.118+svn3796) | 1.9.5~dfsg-3 libvlccore2 (= 1.0.0~rc1) | 1.0.6-1 vlc-nox (= 1.0.6-1) | 1.0.6-1 libaa1(= 1.4p5) | 1.4p5-38 libc6 (= 2.8) | 2.10.2-6 libdbus-1-3 (= 1.0.2) | 1.2.24-1 libfreetype6 (= 2.2.1) | 2.3.11-1 libfribidi0 (= 0.19.2) | 0.19.2-1 libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1) | 1:4.4.3-9 libgl1-mesa-glx | 7.7.1-1 OR libgl1 | libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.0) | 2.24.0-1 libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.8.0) | 2.20.0-3 libnotify1(= 0.4.5) | 0.4.5-1 libnotify1-gtk2.10 | libqtcore4 (= 4:4.6.1) | 4:4.6.2-4 libqtgui4 (= 4:4.6.1) | 4:4.6.2-4 libsdl-image1.2 (= 1.2.10) | 1.2.10-2+b1 libsdl1.2debian(= 1.2.10-1) | 1.2.14-6 libstdc++6(= 4.2.1) | 4.4.3-9 libtar | 1.2.11-6 libvlccore2 (= 1.0.0~rc1) | 1.0.6-1 libx11-6 (= 0) | 2:1.3.3-3 libxcb-keysyms1 (= 0.3.6) | 0.3.6-1 libxcb1 (= 0) | 1.6-1 libxext6 (= 0) | 2:1.1.1-3 libxinerama1 | 2:1.1-3 libxv1 | 2:1.0.5-1 libxxf86vm1 | 1:1.1.0-2 zlib1g (= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg) | 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 ttf-dejavu-core | 2.30-2 liba52-0.7.4 | 0.7.4-14 libasound2 ( 1.0.18) | 1.0.22-2 libass4 (= 0.9.7) | 0.9.9-1 libavahi-client3 (= 0.6.16) | 0.6.25-3 libavahi-common3 (= 0.6.16) | 0.6.25-3 libavc1394-0 (= 0.5.3) | 0.5.3-1+b2 libavcodec52 (= 4:0.5.1-1) | 5:0.5.1+svn20100427-0.0 OR libavcodec-extra-52 (= 4:0.5.1-1) | libavformat52(= 4:0.5.1-1) | 5:0.5.1+svn20100427-0.0 OR libavformat-extra-52 (= 4:0.5.1-1) | libavutil49 (= 4:0.5.1-1) | 4:0.5.1-3 OR libavutil-extra-49(= 4:0.5.1-1) | libc6 (= 2.8) | 2.10.2-6 libcaca0 (= 0.99.beta17-1) | 0.99.beta17-1 libcddb2 | 1.2.1-1 libcdio10| 0.81-4 libdbus-1-3 (= 1.0.2) | 1.2.24-1 libdca0 | 0.0.5-3 libdvbpsi5 | 0.1.6-1 libdvdnav4 | 4.1.3-7 libdvdread4 | 4.1.3-9 libebml0 | 0.7.7-3.1 libfaad2 | 2.7-4 libflac8 (= 1.2.1) | 1.2.1-2+b1 libfontconfig1(= 2.8.0) | 2.8.0-2.1 libfreetype6 (= 2.2.1) | 2.3.11-1 libfribidi0 (= 0.19.2) | 0.19.2-1 libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1) | 1:4.4.3-9
Bug#579938: [vlc-plugin-jack] Disconnects between tracks/songs
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 03:34:23PM +0300, David Baron wrote: I need to connect vlc###-system in the qjackctl connection pane to hear music. At each track playing an audio-CD, for example, it disconnects and I need to reconnect to hear music. Not a desirable behavior! Shouldn't it be sufficient to go to the preference menu, select Show all settings, then choose Audio/Output modules/JACK and say connect to clients matching with or without automatically connect to writable clients? Haven't tried it, but if you enter something like system:play*, it might do the trick. BTW: Unless you really need to separate the vlc outputs from all other system outputs, I recommend using the pulseaudio audio plugin instead and then use pulseaudio-module-jack to bridge to jackd. This way, your connections are always on, no need to mess with qjackctl at all. ;) HTH -- mail: a...@thur.de http://adi.thur.de PGP/GPG: key via keyserver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#579938: [vlc-plugin-jack] Disconnects between tracks/songs
On Sunday 02 May 2010 15:50:31 Adrian Knoth wrote: On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 03:34:23PM +0300, David Baron wrote: I need to connect vlc###-system in the qjackctl connection pane to hear music. At each track playing an audio-CD, for example, it disconnects and I need to reconnect to hear music. Not a desirable behavior! Shouldn't it be sufficient to go to the preference menu, select Show all settings, then choose Audio/Output modules/JACK and say connect to clients matching with or without automatically connect to writable clients? This, once found, works just fine! No need to touch qjackctl at all. Question is: what should be the default mode when jackd is found running on program start (which would busy up alsa)? I think it should simply play. At worst, auto-connect should be in the simple options and default checked. Haven't tried it, but if you enter something like system:play*, it might do the trick. BTW: Unless you really need to separate the vlc outputs from all other system outputs, I recommend using the pulseaudio audio plugin instead and then use pulseaudio-module-jack to bridge to jackd. This way, your connections are always on, no need to mess with qjackctl at all. ;) I wish pulse was up to snuff but it is just too troublesome. Someday. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#579938: [vlc-plugin-jack] Disconnects between tracks/songs
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 06:01:09PM +0300, David Baron wrote: I need to connect vlc###-system in the qjackctl connection pane to hear music. At each track playing an audio-CD, for example, it disconnects and I need to reconnect to hear music. Not a desirable behavior! Shouldn't it be sufficient to go to the preference menu, select Show all settings, then choose Audio/Output modules/JACK and say connect to clients matching with or without automatically connect to writable clients? This, once found, works just fine! No need to touch qjackctl at all. Glad it worked. ;) Question is: what should be the default mode when jackd is found running on program start (which would busy up alsa)? I think it should simply play. At worst, auto-connect should be in the simple options and default checked. I expected this proposal, and I think it's wrong. The point is: jack is not a tool for ordinary desktop users but targeted at professional music production. Jack is not supposed to run as a desktop sound server, this is what pulseaudio is for. Consequently, there is no sensible default where to connect. Physical outs? Or some FX-chain in advance? Or no connection at all, because the output will be fed to a streaming server? And BTW: a running jackd doesn't imply that ALSA is busy. Normally, there is a dedicated (separate) professional audio card in a jackd setup that's connected to the studio. And if you run jackd in dummy mode, no soundcard at all would be occupied. BTW: Unless you really need to separate the vlc outputs from all other system outputs, I recommend using the pulseaudio audio plugin instead and then use pulseaudio-module-jack to bridge to jackd. This way, your connections are always on, no need to mess with qjackctl at all. ;) I wish pulse was up to snuff but it is just too troublesome. Someday. You think so? I claim that's FUD. If something isn't working, file a bug report against pulseaudio or the application in question. To me, it works like a charm, vlc, skype, flash, mplayer and the lot all outputting to pulseaudio which then feeds everything to jackd. Way more stable than the libasound2-jackd-alsa bridge. And make sure to try the DBUS interface support in current qjackctl. (setup/Misc-tab). This might be especially useful in your single card setup: with DBUS support, jackd2 (then jackdbus) talks to pulseaudio, and pulseaudio will release the soundcard, so jackd can be started. In other words, pulseaudio and jackd hand over the card to each other. No need to look for and shutdown all the apps that prevent jackd from starting. You should really give it a whirl. I never want to go back. -- mail: a...@thur.de http://adi.thur.de PGP/GPG: key via keyserver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
