Bug#588839: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#588839: Bug#588839: pv-grub removed ?

2012-03-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/06/2012 04:21 AM, Brian Szymanski wrote:
>   pv-grub is also the best/only way to run hurd under xen:
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach/gnumach/ports/xen.html#index4h1
> 
> it's also the best way by far to run netbsd without a separate /boot
> 
> Cheers,
> Brian Szymanski

PV NetBSD doesn't work with Xen >= 4.0... (no network).

Thomas



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Bug#588839: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#588839: Bug#588839: pv-grub removed ?

2012-03-06 Thread Brian Szymanski

On 03/06/2012 03:44 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:

On 03/06/2012 04:21 AM, Brian Szymanski wrote:

   pv-grub is also the best/only way to run hurd under xen:

http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/microkernel/mach/gnumach/ports/xen.html#index4h1

it's also the best way by far to run netbsd without a separate /boot

Cheers,
Brian Szymanski

PV NetBSD doesn't work with Xen>= 4.0... (no network).

Thomas


As I understand it, PV-grub is not the same as PV. It just uses a PV 
grub to boot an arbitrary kernel (which can be virtualized or not).


IOW: PV NetBSD might not have network, but NetBSD booted with PV-grub does.

Cheers,
Brian Szymanski




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Bug#588839: [Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#588839: Bug#588839: pv-grub removed ?

2010-10-01 Thread Mike Perry
I believe that pv-grub chainloads grub on the guest, where as py-grub
is 100% python and just reads the config.

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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Thomas Goirand  wrote:
> Ian Campbell wrote:
>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 02:49 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>> Philipp Kern wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 03:56:13PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Now, I hope someone from the release team will answer this: if we build
> a new xen-pv-grub package, will it be accepted by the RT, even if we are
> late, as the lack of pv-grub in the xen-utils can be considered a
> regression in Squeeze (as Lenny had the feature)?
 AFAICS there was no pv-grub in Lenny:

 pk...@franck:~/ftp/ftp/dists/lenny$ zgrep pv-grub Contents-amd64.gz 
 Contents-i386.gz
 pk...@franck:~/ftp/ftp/dists/lenny$

 If this is the case, there's no regression.  Furthermore this is a bug of
 severity:wishlist, so no, it would be too late for this.

 Kind regards,
 Philipp Kern
>>> Considering that here:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/PvGrub
>>>
>>> it's written that PvGrub is replacing pygrub,
>>
>> Replacing is rather strong. They serve similar purposes but its entirely
>> up to user preference and/or requirements which one is used. They
>> certainly aren't mutually exclusive or anything like that and pygrub is
>> not going away upstream any time soon.
>
> Replacing isn't my wording. Should the wiki be changed?
>
> What's the advantages/differences of pv-grub compared to pygrub then?
> What is the point in having 2 p*grub that do the same thing?
>
>>> and that in Lenny (unless there's still pygrub in Squeeze,
>>
>> pygrub _is_ in squeeze:
>> $ dpkg -S /usr/lib/xen-*/bin/pygrub
>> xen-utils-4.0: /usr/lib/xen-4.0/bin/pygrub
>>
>> I haven't seen any suggestion, from Bastian or otherwise, that it will
>> be removed.
>>
>> I don't believe pvgrub was in Lenny.
>>
>> Ian.
>
> Cool, thanks for clarifying this. I run outdated self-backported version
> of Bastian's packages (shame on me...), which is why I wasn't sure.
>
> Thomas
>
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