Bug#593706: [kl...@ethgen.de: Re: Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg]
On Mi, 25 Mai 2011, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> You did ask and I answered correct. So if you do not want answers, do
> not ask!
Please see my post from 2010-08-27 on the bug report.
Then tell me where you have answered any of the quetions posed in the
thread.
End of line.
> Ps. Don't bother to go on with this offensive. I will put you to my kill
> file.
Good, thanks, I am always happy to end up in people's kill files, gives
me the feeling to be loved.
Norbert
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Bug#593706: [kl...@ethgen.de: Re: Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg]
On 25.05.11 Norbert Preining (prein...@logic.at) wrote: > On Mi, 25 Mai 2011, Klaus Ethgen wrote Hi, > > Forgot to answer to the bt too... > > Not again this thread. > > By now about 20 emails and still no terminal log. > > I think the history of this bug has been explained in detail by > myself in my email from 2010-08-27. > OK, I'll try to install again a system from scratch, just to make sure the problem *is* unreproducible. If still not visible here I tend to close the case. H. -- sigmentation fault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: [kl...@ethgen.de: Re: Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Mi den 25. Mai 2011 um 13:33 schrieb Norbert Preining: > tag 593706 +invalid +ignore +rubbish +forget +idontcare [...] > > Forgot to answer to the bt too... > > Not again this thread. > > By now about 20 emails and still no terminal log. What are you for a kind of troll!? Sorry about to be such direct. But I never ever have seen any kind of help from your side. Neither on this bug nor on debian-devel. You did ask and I answered correct. So if you do not want answers, do not ask! It is a mess that people like you are part of debian to put the reputation of debian to wast. If someone want to help solving that bug he is welcome to ask for informations but I am tired of such answers like yours. I was always kind and do not accept such offensive answers. I know I should not do so but I forward this answers to debian-devel too as you was trolling around over there too. (Not as answer to me but very offensive.) Regards Klaus Ps. Don't bother to go on with this offensive. I will put you to my kill file. - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJN3RZrAAoJEK8RO3RE9oVxgO4MAI9PCXC4rYhxbj8IYaigKFFx if3gy9c2lxCYRpqq6WhB45qu/tmaWS4Iod2f7cRyMnhhxf7+x2olbJXvB7N10jkp SBPHhfCmhi6wFQEnnvp1CYRcrP2shaJRUHXeYjEgUUbW32UsZJ3nCJjZjwLSeKGT 13+rYkLmlnOQQEQr2MCEwJuJit3/cNrXTbl2Qk00skWbybgOIkDI8Bpm3j43Vbal zOGGbmobWbCQ6z3bFqRZxh1ZO/8ocTy+nivtu7g/UmBEeAHmjkMv0oVbV6StxF1x ovkvjct6iKBgm5vmJuoWtXkiltqxcFhFNzpNKAmaQdiVFE8+2X1MHJieTKcqY2Y3 cYJxAKE5ZCmcP/dz4S7c6PrSuerVaDsqkccMPd3XQCmPsYJBhOnxXRtSDx9cX3b3 HH8bIJVWpuHQbgIq1lhwFZydLtJtuEKd6nKvKFN3gXC+IMlbYL9b/+bOHybRRIaV U39fEgNWsbk2vH+6LVlDeWsOWNTNeVapxXDHT08nSg== =G0Xu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: [kl...@ethgen.de: Re: Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg]
tag 593706 +invalid +ignore +rubbish +forget +idontcare
thanks
On Mi, 25 Mai 2011, Klaus Ethgen wrote
> Forgot to answer to the bt too...
Not again this thread.
By now about 20 emails and still no terminal log.
I think the history of this bug has been explained in detail by
myself in my email from 2010-08-27.
Hilmar, you agreed to let this thread die in your email from 2010-08-27,
please do not restart it, PLEASE.
Best wishes
Norbert
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Bug#593706: [kl...@ethgen.de: Re: Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Forgot to answer to the bt too... - - Forwarded message from Klaus Ethgen - Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 06:40:16 +0100 From: Klaus Ethgen To: Hilmar Preusse Subject: Re: Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg Hello, Am So den 22. Mai 2011 um 16:44 schrieb Hilmar Preusse: > > The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg as > > dpkg uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, dpkg-reconfigure, I > > am not sure which exactly but that makes no sens either). The > > configuration on newly installed systems will not be finished as > > the error brakes the configuration step. > > > That bug been reported last year in August until now we didn't got > another incarnation of it. Could it be possible that the problem is > only visible on your system and maybe caused by a misconfiguration of > it? I was able to reproduce it on all systems I installed from scratch. So no, it is not only related to misconfiguration. However, I did not test recently if the bug still exists. Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C - - End forwarded message - Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJN3JZ2AAoJEK8RO3RE9oVx5S4L+wUrGvxRDoWZlVcNLvRdB5F8 pjX44tI6G6LbpInJRJpdF8cppEEP2tgYGZX8PeGP1UZ8ikmQ1Z+2PQgCc9uwxfBU hd7VT8u80xBrNwB4MbUFN9yMi5NRjk44pRoXmrQnRlvJ0ABR1LeI9TWcyfvrdE5y ribAxTX1ZYAdHf17cDGlL5MqpIw9SBgnCzaSHKTo+OEvWowGHC1cvT4b075KgtcZ G1QhV4Ddz7a4X85e4tnImSzxSA3+3DQopYqb+VZsDdEQypIDGSfYMpstY3Bhlc7b e/CV2JXfcwG9We71hwmaXaFLmqkdmkr4LkNygyEE3YgN4Ead5Ge36APvfKP4Izu8 RoxAaP8h8JS2QskpDS0eYIQRNM4NCTPIhwn4zvif8LFHJ4EftG2Mn0or23Ep3ECr tWF1Wu4AOLTHMX5EpEvthN9i9AFXh/T7hlOXCfcL3Ci/2hER5jZcoWxIdx4GW2k5 bHUnFR41MJdyCbqkrWVYabL/N+rPTF4sIcTbXmhwtg== =uROK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On 20.08.10 Klaus Ethgen (kl...@ethgen.de) wrote: Hi Klaus, > The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg as > dpkg uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, dpkg-reconfigure, I > am not sure which exactly but that makes no sens either). The > configuration on newly installed systems will not be finished as > the error brakes the configuration step. > That bug been reported last year in August until now we didn't got another incarnation of it. Could it be possible that the problem is only visible on your system and maybe caused by a misconfiguration of it? Thanks, Hilmar -- sigmentation fault signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On 26.08.10 Norbert Preining (prein...@logic.at) wrote: Hi, > Please, either do what you have been asked for several times, or > leave us alone, or go to the technical committee. But don't waste > our time. > Full ACK. Please stop explaining to Klaus, that we wrote an incomplete bug report. It is a waste of *your*, I guess he knows what he has to do. H. -- sigmentation fault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On Do, 26 Aug 2010, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> might be that that was organized together. But as it is at least broken
> in some cases shows that not all cases are addressed.
Yes, but you might check the definition of
> That is definitely not true. I got a mail of one people who had the same
> problem. However, I cannot find the mail anymore.
Not very convincing argument.
> > No, because other people in the thread have told you that they made
> > installations without any problems .. so it is unreproducible with
> > missing infos .. so it is not critical.
>
> So, if some people see no problem, then it is rubbish for you? If so,
> then please notice that some people take themself out of the gene pool
> by jumping from a bridge and take your own consequences ...
Ok, can we stop this useless thread. As long as you do not provide
the data as explained by Julian (and in many other places) I don't
see any need to discuss that any further.
If you have further complains, please bring it up to the technical
comittee.
> > Ahhh, really. Then please give a *detailed* report how to reproduce it.
>
> I will if I am asked for nicely. But until now I have been only hostile
> to.
Oh, so we should solve your problem by vague blabla and a crystal
ball ... very realistic.
> If it is not enough, then just ask politely. With that hate and FUD I
> read in the last mails I am not willing to help making debian better at
> all.
May I recall the history of events, so that the situation is clear
(I do that wasting my time, but I am already pissed enough with
this case that I enjoy wasting my time):
- bug report of you: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:52:49 +0100
quotes: "renaming to ... broken-install-info ..."
"I was able to reproduce this bug ..."
but no info, even *after* reproducing this bug, of what didn't work
and what error messages. So why did you reproduce it?
- answer from Hilmar: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:37:07 +0200
with concise explanation showing what is going on
- email from you: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:26:14 +0100
some assumption about internal processing (which is not true)
- email from Julian: (date missing, I don't saw that email)
reports a successfull install
- email from you: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:03:13 +0100
quotes: "...I see no was to _not_ reproduce it."
but at the same time: "I just do not have the correct error messages..."
- email from Hilmar: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:36:44 +0200
quote: "Same here. I could install a system w/o problems,"
- email from me: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 23:50:35 +0900
(after 4 days of inactivity of your side, and two reports of successfull
installation, and still no data what broke, what error messages)
reduce the severity, tagging moreinfo and unreproducible
stating that "it is rubbish " that the configuration step is broken
- email from you: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:32:49 +0100
quotes: "Debian quality gets more and more worse in my opinion."
still no data, but you are asking for *what* data to provide
- email from me: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:51:48 +0900
arguing that severity critical is overexaggerating since nobody
can reproduce this problem (but you and an unnamed and anonymous
other person)
Asking for terminal logs, output of apt/dpkg
- email from Julian: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:00:36 +0100
link to "how to submit a bug" ples a detailed list of what you
should provide (installation method, error messages)
- email from you: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:33:38 +0100
the one I am answering now
So after about one week of a - according to you 100% reproducible bug -
we still haven't seen any actual error message, nor any other data
point, like how you did install, from which media, what you did select,
etc etc etc.
Do you think we should continue that?
Please, either do what you have been asked for several times, or leave
us alone, or go to the technical committee. But don't waste our time.
> Concerning other bugs I heared of people who have same problems but was
> not willing anymore to write any word with some debian maintainers as
> the was also scared of with FUD and hate mails.
Hate emails? Because I stated that it is "rubbish" that the hole system
breaks while two others tried to reproduce it without success.
I am off. I am willing to fix any bug when there is an actual bug
that one can understand.
Best wishes
Norbert
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Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 05:33:38PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > I will provide the Informations you asked here the next days. Please > give me some time to setup a test bed for it. As much time as you need; once we are able to reproduce it following your instructions, it will be possible to reassess this bug. > > P.S. PLEASE NOTE that I have changed my email address; it is now: > > jul...@d-and-j.net > > If you have any problems with this email address, please let me know > > on my old address: j...@polya.uklinux.net > > I just reply to the mail. You can set a reply-to: header. Apologies; I forgot to delete this footer from this email. Julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello together, Am Do den 26. Aug 2010 um 11:51 schrieb Norbert Preining: > On Do, 26 Aug 2010, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > Aha, if it breaks unrelated software and the whole system it is only > > normal priority. > > > > Debian quality gets more and more worse in my opinion. To lower high > > important severities is not helping to hold high quality. > > The move to install-info from GNU was concerted and organized together > with the dpkg team. Please don't overexaggerate the problem. Hmmm... I do not know what you mean with "overexaggerate". However, it might be that that was organized together. But as it is at least broken in some cases shows that not all cases are addressed. > Nobody else can reproduce the problme you are having, so it is > definitely not critical. That is definitely not true. I got a mail of one people who had the same problem. However, I cannot find the mail anymore. > > Aha. You argue a much worse way. If you think that this is rubbish only > > cause your specific installation work is rubbish (To use your words). > > No, because other people in the thread have told you that they made > installations without any problems .. so it is unreproducible with > missing infos .. so it is not critical. So, if some people see no problem, then it is rubbish for you? If so, then please notice that some people take themself out of the gene pool by jumping from a bridge and take your own consequences ... > > notexisting problem. That is a real problem that is reproducible as I > > wrote in the bug report. > > Ahhh, really. Then please give a *detailed* report how to reproduce it. I will if I am asked for nicely. But until now I have been only hostile to. > > However, it is understandable that you need more data. So please specify > > that data and how to collect them. [more FUD] > If you are interested in fixing things, don't come wasting our precious > time by writing bug reports with as much information as oxygen on the moon. My time is just limited. I fill good bug reports if I am able to do. If not or if I think the problem is more general then I just fill all informations I have as I did in that report. If it is not enough, then just ask politely. With that hate and FUD I read in the last mails I am not willing to help making debian better at all. Concerning other bugs I heared of people who have same problems but was not willing anymore to write any word with some debian maintainers as the was also scared of with FUD and hate mails. I myself did some consequences and fixed some bugs myself without giving back the patches to the debian community. I do not want to do that with all bugs as I still think debian maintainer did a nice job. But with such answers like in that bug report ... Am Do den 26. Aug 2010 um 13:00 schrieb Julian Gilbey: > Which other people? See above. > > However, it is understandable that you need more data. So please specify > > that data and how to collect them. [common practice without use for special problems] > At the very least, you need to say which hardware you are using, which > options you selected during the installation, precisely which > installation media you used (was it from a USB stick, CD, DVD?), which > version of the installation software you used (which image did you > download, etc.), and then copy down the *exact* error messages you > see. Then ask for It and do not start hating mails to scare of bug reporters! I will provide the Informations you asked here the next days. Please give me some time to setup a test bed for it. > P.S. PLEASE NOTE that I have changed my email address; it is now: > jul...@d-and-j.net > If you have any problems with this email address, please let me know > on my old address: j...@polya.uklinux.net I just reply to the mail. You can set a reply-to: header. Regards Klaus Ps. I do not want to come down to your slanderous level but this mail has one sentence I couldn't resist. Sorry. - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4 99 A6 D4 FE EA 40 30 57 3C 88 26 2B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBTHaXYZ+OKpjRpO3lAQoWUAf+KOZmXhlYtVegSFYfZtZomDAqwS0Mpsxo qbpHzy2WHZPDx77jPhKTpTzbBuqFAOThRWRikRdVDHFLeHhIuH040975oY/DTHqb 5GM16TXURssYHZCBuWWqo/NSpyT4uBvwRxr+fRjtAYI24AvoRrEogHjWQ26ms2tF 2zCWFuDH4L9PXp2PnkdiJK2SQWFv8aX2AiKRnzCCsMzIEdxIuhQVHL26ki4RCDlx H7Pd++O9Dofukb11tOe/oh/wVpcJ1wUJij6UE4hkVjSvidlOcCjNgCY3NPpS7Nam H1dFrIcD6DOsQVfH5Osce0o6QHtgbROkhFRLjy6jTDfUPGx74/4A5g== =kl+G -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:32:49AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > As least one other people did see the same problem. So that is not a > notexisting problem. That is a real problem that is reproducible as I > wrote in the bug report. Which other people? > However, it is understandable that you need more data. So please specify > that data and how to collect them. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s04.html#submit-bug At the very least, you need to say which hardware you are using, which options you selected during the installation, precisely which installation media you used (was it from a USB stick, CD, DVD?), which version of the installation software you used (which image did you download, etc.), and then copy down the *exact* error messages you see. Without all of this, it will be impossible to track down your problem. Julian P.S. PLEASE NOTE that I have changed my email address; it is now: jul...@d-and-j.net If you have any problems with this email address, please let me know on my old address: j...@polya.uklinux.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On Do, 26 Aug 2010, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Aha, if it breaks unrelated software and the whole system it is only
> normal priority.
>
> Debian quality gets more and more worse in my opinion. To lower high
> important severities is not helping to hold high quality.
The move to install-info from GNU was concerted and organized together
with the dpkg team. Please don't overexaggerate the problem. Nobody
else can reproduce the problme you are having, so it is definitely
not critical.
> Aha. You argue a much worse way. If you think that this is rubbish only
> cause your specific installation work is rubbish (To use your words).
No, because other people in the thread have told you that they made
installations without any problems .. so it is unreproducible with
missing infos .. so it is not critical.
> notexisting problem. That is a real problem that is reproducible as I
> wrote in the bug report.
Ahhh, really. Then please give a *detailed* report how to reproduce it.
> However, it is understandable that you need more data. So please specify
> that data and how to collect them.
You not even provided terminal logs, NOTHING. No line of actual output
of dpkg/apt/whatever???
Is that the first time you report a bug? Ever heard about how to report
a good bug?
I am not used to read from the crystal ball, and I will ignore further
bug reports (as I did it till now) of that level. Your bug report
is of the level of a typical Ubuntu user:
It breaks the system, fix it!
Well, if you want that, get a professional service and pay for it, but
leave me in peace.
If you are interested in fixing things, don't come wasting our precious
time by writing bug reports with as much information as oxygen on the moon.
Best wishes
Norbert
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Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Mi den 25. Aug 2010 um 15:50 schrieb Norbert Preining: > severity 593706 normal Aha, if it breaks unrelated software and the whole system it is only normal priority. Debian quality gets more and more worse in my opinion. To lower high important severities is not helping to hold high quality. > tag 593706 + moreinfo unreproducible > thanks > > On Fr, 20 Aug 2010, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg as dpkg > > uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, dpkg-reconfigure, I am not > > sure which exactly but that makes no sens either). The configuration on > > newly installed systems will not be finished as the error brakes the > > configuration step. > > That is rubbish. As long as you don't provide any data I don't see > why that might happen. Aha. You argue a much worse way. If you think that this is rubbish only cause your specific installation work is rubbish (To use your words). As least one other people did see the same problem. So that is not a notexisting problem. That is a real problem that is reproducible as I wrote in the bug report. However, it is understandable that you need more data. So please specify that data and how to collect them. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4 99 A6 D4 FE EA 40 30 57 3C 88 26 2B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBTHZC0Z+OKpjRpO3lAQoWFQf+Oejup57unAbiNwG+sQSIxfAtfdoRRjSH AU+wVc6pttKJ6mkNtSVJEnw3YatnssdNl0PiyfAmuHJKWAaEVSKpmBb/DPr3ATVa R8z7sAMjqC9692j8bkPpIfEKkUGtmZmBgCby3ImLY4F/rPFnqSQuwa8UNj2yit+y 9eAaGquxEqlQq9NkfpfUdILJJrU2LHjUWUVPUVhHPDcPi/dhgcku77ZtpUhyTC2a Y5Aa4EknVZ7/FOvnkDfogu4Sxv0UudlhcJpqsf6Tysca4V39nsZd9g79pTOqHFyy 7172XizioSA5/OaHKTQrGyRPDlvXci3uf1dlSk03OYZAY7B4Tm3rdg== =osoa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
severity 593706 normal
tag 593706 + moreinfo unreproducible
thanks
On Fr, 20 Aug 2010, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg as dpkg
> uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, dpkg-reconfigure, I am not
> sure which exactly but that makes no sens either). The configuration on
> newly installed systems will not be finished as the error brakes the
> configuration step.
That is rubbish. As long as you don't provide any data I don't see
why that might happen.
Best wishes
Norbert
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Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On 20.08.10 Julian Gilbey (j...@debian.org) wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:52:49PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Hi, > > The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg > > as dpkg uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, > > dpkg-reconfigure, I am not sure which exactly but that makes no > > sens either). The configuration on newly installed systems will > > not be finished as the error brakes the configuration step. [...] > > > > Please note that the bug is there for some time now and I am not > > sure when it was issued. If I know correctly even stable is > > concerned. However, oldstable was fine. > > I have just installed a Debian testing system (from the alpha1 netinst > images) with no problems whatsoever (modulo a grub-related issue). > Same here. I could install a system w/o problems, I de-selected the desktop task. I used the netinst image available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ H. -- sigmentation fault -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Fr den 20. Aug 2010 um 16:59 schrieb Julian Gilbey: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:52:49PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > Package: install-info > > Version: 4.13a.dfsg.1-5 > > Severity: critical > > > > The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg as dpkg > > uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, dpkg-reconfigure, I am not > > sure which exactly but that makes no sens either). The configuration on > > newly installed systems will not be finished as the error brakes the > > configuration step. > > [...] > > > > Please note that the bug is there for some time now and I am not sure > > when it was issued. If I know correctly even stable is concerned. > > However, oldstable was fine. > > I have just installed a Debian testing system (from the alpha1 netinst > images) with no problems whatsoever (modulo a grub-related issue). > > How do you know that this is the cause of the problem you have > observed? A error message telling me that the options giving to install-info are wrong. I just do not have the correct error message by hand as I did not save it. Sorry. > Some logs or further details of the installation are absolutely > necessary to pursue this bug further, and ideally a precise > description of how to reproduce it. I see no way to _not_ reproduce it. Every installation in the last months did fall over this issue. As I told even ubuntu has this bug in the newest LTS release. However, I will try a new install the next days and see what I can do with it. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4 99 A6 D4 FE EA 40 30 57 3C 88 26 2B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBTG61UZ+OKpjRpO3lAQoHxQgAlPCO9kGcgRW5GZ2cYYduJcxByeWdwYJN BO5KCJjaOqjA8f9r+dKj3fclAW5rj097e4Macm/dIoqjzhEpcv3oYg1GJ2zdkR25 HrP+nl+JyqgkNLdDblOqqgqpU6vGz9tSx66zYOTbjRiTvFi5PV3WHTF87fWIPCF6 clX5dt3/FwYAsaTJk/lpJmQDyMLRTw0KXXcb2j5dWKawGZ2jsvywNqJqeANj1+GE cCkxZg822mZbjJ4KlIvSshtxZUonK4QR7zIZ6sOHlMCWuVLjZFMz2m5T2Bd48KZB hvorDYaQRvJleAmE6Gj4jkTZEUAerG457smrpRRBMPzrcIphRQlnww== =H06J -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Fr den 20. Aug 2010 um 17:37 schrieb Hilmar Preusse: > > The bug is easily to fix. Just rename /usr/bin/install-info to > > /usr/bin/broken-install-info and everything works well as the > > /usr/sbin/install-info too is used now. > > > Don't think so: > > hi...@sid:~ $ /usr/sbin/install-info > install-info: warning: don't call programs like install-info with an absolute > path, > install-info: warning: /usr/sbin/install-info provided by dpkg is deprecated > and will go away soon; > install-info: warning: its replacement lives in /usr/bin/. > This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info > See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments > install-info: No input file specified; try --help for more information. I read that. However if the /usr/bin/install-info is removed everything works well. I _suppose_ that /usr/sbin/install-info is using /usr/bin/install-info if that is available. If not it processes the stuff internal. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4 99 A6 D4 FE EA 40 30 57 3C 88 26 2B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBTG66tp+OKpjRpO3lAQqbYgf/b9W5aIEzwBpZ5cSc/NlIxadYOUw/+9Q8 lrXixsNs++vRQBP/Ipe20jWdotuELEDnWGLhBRgnchL3RFBS8FNBPRIk7TjEuT8s B96OrU27WFkCNaEnh85Shg6HVaGSh+il/jiC+0y/3pZ8y6q5ey+iTHH0/fCs61qg lq/bZA+fGZ3SEYRWHz3LyXEGrK07plWbkRcvR8gu5OAdXzif+6mg6NAPFwRJljC3 RpJ/jrJL9ySY6jcK7KhdcyjbcOeFq9hgvbWi9SyHqP32j+JlBzI+NBn86mILlOp0 3ITeRYLlTZHr74EXp8vky8i3vVM7/KpdKEBFaDKPYvvfGGMzWBjKjQ== =roIO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On 20.08.10 Klaus Ethgen (kl...@ethgen.de) wrote: Hi, > The bug is easily to fix. Just rename /usr/bin/install-info to > /usr/bin/broken-install-info and everything works well as the > /usr/sbin/install-info too is used now. > Don't think so: hi...@sid:~ $ /usr/sbin/install-info install-info: warning: don't call programs like install-info with an absolute path, install-info: warning: /usr/sbin/install-info provided by dpkg is deprecated and will go away soon; install-info: warning: its replacement lives in /usr/bin/. This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info See the man page for ginstall-info for command line arguments install-info: No input file specified; try --help for more information. H. -- sigmentation fault pgpWUB4I0tivL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:52:49PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Package: install-info > Version: 4.13a.dfsg.1-5 > Severity: critical > > The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg as dpkg > uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, dpkg-reconfigure, I am not > sure which exactly but that makes no sens either). The configuration on > newly installed systems will not be finished as the error brakes the > configuration step. > [...] > > Please note that the bug is there for some time now and I am not sure > when it was issued. If I know correctly even stable is concerned. > However, oldstable was fine. I have just installed a Debian testing system (from the alpha1 netinst images) with no problems whatsoever (modulo a grub-related issue). How do you know that this is the cause of the problem you have observed? Some logs or further details of the installation are absolutely necessary to pursue this bug further, and ideally a precise description of how to reproduce it. Julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Package: install-info Version: 4.13a.dfsg.1-5 Severity: critical The tool /usr/bin/install-info breaks the configuration in dpkg as dpkg uses install-info internal (dpkg, debconf, dpkg-reconfigure, I am not sure which exactly but that makes no sens either). The configuration on newly installed systems will not be finished as the error brakes the configuration step. I was able to reproduce this bug not only on debian than also on ubuntu (the LTS version). The bug is easily to fix. Just rename /usr/bin/install-info to /usr/bin/broken-install-info and everything works well as the /usr/sbin/install-info too is used now. The result of this very critical bug is a completely unconfigured system after new install. The bug happens independent if installed with debian-installer or debootstrap or complete by hand. Please note that the bug is there for some time now and I am not sure when it was issued. If I know correctly even stable is concerned. However, oldstable was fine. - -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (800, 'unstable'), (700, 'stable'), (60, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 2.6.34 (SMP w/8 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE, LC_CTYPE=de_DE (charmap=ISO-8859-1) (ignored: LC_ALL set to de_DE) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages install-info depends on: ii libc6 2.11.2-2 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib install-info recommends no packages. install-info suggests no packages. - -- no debconf information - -- Klaus Ethgenhttp://www.ethgen.de/ pub 2048R/D1A4EDE5 2000-02-26 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: D7 67 71 C4 99 A6 D4 FE EA 40 30 57 3C 88 26 2B -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBTG6Ir5+OKpjRpO3lAQpqxAf/VVeJoXOA7wCfFWC+jdjWmixZ1dNbWZdC uqUqpbGSbvCBPVbBJEQaH+KryTU+V3/nFJNA3J45EplJzNaa1/nAWE3ywF/mCMjV m49myXHLD0CDpnu+M3iv8TcmLjqCV21dzHPeKjypYBoj5zpoZnl3Ud9hBwDzqg5G tvS/mx9TCtpxFeg/ayudQcJ+0knLdmrjJKLjfBzf9wyneJl3JB7+xrRy/B7os+4F RBVsJyxLLO+K2M1XBFGyChVVAaukaXEAdbNmEHl93VldAQgp1MtV7SYz50duwOlC KEbokLPSIi/xu1nSk7If2xpwfI6Skl3JCNvrKx3ao3jnHe8Wjtsk9A== =8/jj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
