Bug#609278: Unity
What's the current status of this? I know I'm probably in the minority but it's a blocker for me in terms of moving away from Ubuntu to Debian which I'd prefer to do. Does anyone have ownership over the porting of this? The only status I can find is an out dated wiki page? (https://wiki.debian.org/Ayatana/Packages) Any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.
Bug#609278:
Has there been any more progress on this?
Bug#609278: Unity
Hello Folks still following this ITP. I spent some time trying to see if I could get the Unity shell packaged for Debian. I started with taking the latest build from precise-updates and see what needs change and what is missing Here's what I have: rrs@champaran:~/Community/Packaging/Unity$ ls bamf/ frame/ grail/ Lenses/ libunity-webapps/ unity/ x11proto-fixes/ compiz/geis/humanity-icon-theme/ libunity/ libxfixes/ unity-asset-pool/ dbus-test-runner/ glib2.0-2.32.3/ indicator-messages/ libunity-misc/ nux/ unity-greeter/ Many of it is already in Debian in sid and experimental. Where as some others (icons etc) can always be addons. Building the entire thing was a real PITA. The main reason being that getting Unity for Debian would mean close co-ordination in between dependent package teams and accommodating changes. For example, the unity patch for chromium. And this definitely cannot be done by a single person. So are people interested and willing to take it further ??? I haven't done much than just try to get it build inside a sid/experimental pbuilder instance, so all the big task of co-ordination with other dependency teams is still pending... Oh!! And yes, it also runs on my box. -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf | http://people.debian.org/~rrs Debian - The Universal Operating System signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#609278: maybe retitle?
You're right, thank you for this observation. I'll do as you said as it seems right now I don't plan on continuing working on this packages implementation in Debian. Adnan On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:56 PM, David Bremner brem...@debian.org wrote: Hi Adnan, I just came across this bug in a discussion on IRC today. Perhaps if you don't expect to work on this further (unless the situation changes), you could retitle the bug to an RFP, to allow people to more quickly understand the state of things. All the best, David
Bug#609278: maybe retitle?
Hi Adnan, I just came across this bug in a discussion on IRC today. Perhaps if you don't expect to work on this further (unless the situation changes), you could retitle the bug to an RFP, to allow people to more quickly understand the state of things. All the best, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: any progress
Hey, is there any progress on packaging unity for debian atm? Greetings Winnie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: any progress
No, nor does it seem there will be any. Please refer to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609278#67 for more information. Regards, Adnan On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Patrick Winnertz win...@debian.org wrote: Hey, is there any progress on packaging unity for debian atm? Greetings Winnie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: ITP: Unity -- Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition
Hello Matthias, I wanted to ask wether there is any progress of packaging Unity for Debian. To be absolutely honest it hasn't moved from ground zero and I'll tell you all about it as I go through this email. I would love to have it in Debian. So would I, and from point Unity was even announced to move from netbooks to desktop back on DebConf10 I saw this as a great opportunity to have Unity in Debian and for Debian to move closer to its goal as being the Universal Operating System. If there is anything I can help with, I will be happy to try to do so. At the moment I am not sure what has to be done in order to get Unity into Debian. The most I worked on trying to get Unity in Debian was around UDS-N, especially after Mark announced that it would replace GNOME desktop on Ubuntu desktop. The main problem was that there was so many dependencies, even on some of the most trivial packages you would have to check what the differences were as there would be some kind of change done in Ubuntu. By the time you'd get caught up with all of it, there would be a new changes made on Unity and you would be on the very start, again. As this seemed of more being in infinite loop then packaging process, and as I was busy with other things such as organizing DebConf11, university, so on I just paused the whole process. I talked about this topic with various people, ranging from users over developers to project leaders both from Ubuntu and Debian side. Ubuntu was very interested in this and was very willing to help, even people from very top of Canonical were interested and I was even asked by Mark himself back on UDS-O what's happening with this and I told him as it was. Something along the line that Unity's moving too fast, in a sense that there's a lot of changes happening to Unity and it's very hard to catch up on all the dependencies and differences between the packages. Now, back on DebConf11, I was too busy with organization and kinda missed the whole conference, but from what I found out from some informal talks, to be honest besides few people Debian side wasn't that interested in having Unity, some didn't even see the whole point of having another DE. Second and most important point is, if we want to have Unity in Debian there has to be more then one or few people working in this process and the only way it can be done is if the whole team of people working on it. But as I might have mentioned or hinted I think what prevents it from getting into Debian at this point is more of a philosophical nature rather then technical. When it comes to Unity, with Ubuntu 11.10 we can see that it has greatly matured from what we saw in 11.04 and that it could be packaged at this point, but AFAIK there's a lot of happening with development of Unity 5 for 12.04 release, and maybe this could the best point to have it packaged and pushed into Debian. I'm saying this from a point that Debian 7 will be released in some ~6-7 month time period, at this point even if it gets pushed into Debian by then I don't see a point of having it in there. Especially from the point that I highly doubt that Unity 5 will be managed to be pushed into Debian 7 after its release in Ubuntu 12.04. And I don't know how much would you like to have current Unity in Debian 7 until Debian 8 gets released ... In general, I think why Unity is important and what it means for *all* Linux distributions was summed in last couple of minutes of UDS-P keynote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bOwyGYTMv8feature=youtu.bet=24m48s After DebConf11 I'm busy with finishing my studies, and want to devote more time to Java team, as of this point chances of getting Unity into Debian doesn't look too bright, and as it seems right now all we can do is give it more time and wait as for some products time is the key factor. In the end please note that with everything that I said here I'm not being pessimistic but rather just realistic. 2011/11/17 Matthias Kümmerer matth...@matthias-k.org: Hi, I wanted to ask wether there is any progress of packaging Unity for Debian. I would love to have it in Debian. If there is anything I can help with, I will be happy to try to do so. At the moment I am not sure what has to be done in order to get Unity into Debian. Matthias -- Adnan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: ITP: Unity -- Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition
Hi, I wanted to ask wether there is any progress of packaging Unity for Debian. I would love to have it in Debian. If there is anything I can help with, I will be happy to try to do so. At the moment I am not sure what has to be done in order to get Unity into Debian. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] progress on Unity?
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Jon Dowland wrote: Has there been any progress on this ITP? Not that I know. You're welcome to help, Adnan is doing lots of other stuff already and pkg-ayatana is largely understaffed in general. Thank you Raphael for this very thoughtful observation, as it is absolutely true. I kind of paused this whole process at the moment, was even thinking of adding RFH tag to this ITP if that's even possible. Implementation of Unity into Debian requires immense amount of work to be done, and I'm not even sure it can be done by one person. Before I paused this process, huge deal of packages were missing in Debian, even in case they were present in Debian they required patching. Of course, these packages could be repackaged directly from Ubuntu as they are already patched and working nicely in Ubuntu. Before resuming this process I believe we need to figure out which way to go. I assume it's patching current Debian packages. As Raphael already said, I'm doing bunch of other stuff, so help would be highly appreciated. If I could get extra pair of hands and where we would divide duties among ourselves I believe this whole process could be finished relatively fast. Adnan On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: Hello Jon, On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Jon Dowland wrote: Has there been any progress on this ITP? Not that I know. You're welcome to help, Adnan is doing lots of other stuff already and pkg-ayatana is largely understaffed in general. (I encouraged its creation but I can't take a leading role) Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: Fwd: Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] progress on Unity?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org Date: Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 2:59 PM Subject: Re: Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] progress on Unity? To: Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org, 609...@bugs.debian.org Cc: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org, pkg-ayatana-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Jon Dowland wrote: Has there been any progress on this ITP? Not that I know. You're welcome to help, Adnan is doing lots of other stuff already and pkg-ayatana is largely understaffed in general. Thank you Raphael for this very thoughtful observation, as it is absolutely true. I kind of paused this whole process at the moment, was even thinking of adding RFH tag to this ITP if that's even possible. Implementation of Unity into Debian requires immense amount of work to be done, and I'm not even sure it can be done by one person. Before I paused this process, huge deal of packages were missing in Debian, even in case they were present in Debian they required patching. Of course, these packages could be repackaged directly from Ubuntu as they are already patched and working nicely in Ubuntu. Before resuming this process I believe we need to figure out which way to go. I assume it's patching current Debian packages. As Raphael already said, I'm doing bunch of other stuff, so help would be highly appreciated. If I could get extra pair of hands and where we would divide duties among ourselves I believe this whole process could be finished relatively fast. Adnan On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: Hello Jon, On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Jon Dowland wrote: Has there been any progress on this ITP? Not that I know. You're welcome to help, Adnan is doing lots of other stuff already and pkg-ayatana is largely understaffed in general. (I encouraged its creation but I can't take a leading role) Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] progress on Unity?
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Before resuming this process I believe we need to figure out which way to go. I assume it's patching current Debian packages. As Raphael I don't know what kind of patches those are, but this obviously need to be discussed with each relevant maintainer. We can't decide for them. But duplicating packages would be really bad. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] Bug#609278: progress on Unity?
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Jon Dowland wrote: Has there been any progress on this ITP? Not that I know. You're welcome to help, Adnan is doing lots of other stuff already and pkg-ayatana is largely understaffed in general. Thank you Raphael for this very thoughtful observation, as it is absolutely true. I kind of paused this whole process at the moment, was even thinking of adding RFH tag to this ITP if that's even possible. Implementation of Unity into Debian requires immense amount of work to be done, and I'm not even sure it can be done by one person. Before I paused this process, huge deal of packages were missing in Debian, even in case they were present in Debian they required patching. Of course, these packages could be repackaged directly from Ubuntu as they are already patched and working nicely in Ubuntu. Before resuming this process I believe we need to figure out which way to go. I assume it's patching current Debian packages. As Raphael already said, I'm doing bunch of other stuff, so help would be highly appreciated. If I could get extra pair of hands and where we would divide duties among ourselves I believe this whole process could be finished relatively fast. We should probably have a larger discussion on pkg-ayatana-devel about goals/plans for the group in Wheezy, but a first step that would be useful would be to make sure http://wiki.debian.org/Ayatana/Packages is up-to-date. Currently it only has the packages which integrate into GNOME 2.X sessions, not all of the stuff required for Unity. We could probably also use a page that tracks/examines what patches to non-Ayatana packages that Ubuntu is carrying in order to build Unity. Also, it should be noted that Unity is currently implemented as a plugin to the Compiz 0.9.x branch. Which is only in experimental, so uploads need to be targeted there. - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] progress on Unity?
I don't know what kind of patches those are, but this obviously need to be discussed with each relevant maintainer. We can't decide for them. But duplicating packages would be really bad. I think this is because Squeeze was being prepared for release, so everybody was revolving around that goal. I believe situation has changed, and that most of these packages have been synced by now and that they are at least in experimental. If anything, I learned from this process is that Ubuntu *does* push back the changes. I even made a deps check http://paste.debian.net/plain/105221 but please be *aware* this was almost a month ago. For instance now you're able to find compiz-core 0.9.2.1+git20110226.f059fae9-4 in experimental. I'll redo the whole process by the end of this week, will let you know of the results. Adnan On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Before resuming this process I believe we need to figure out which way to go. I assume it's patching current Debian packages. As Raphael I don't know what kind of patches those are, but this obviously need to be discussed with each relevant maintainer. We can't decide for them. But duplicating packages would be really bad. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] Bug#609278: progress on Unity?
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio a.star...@gmail.com wrote: We should probably have a larger discussion on pkg-ayatana-devel about goals/plans for the group in Wheezy, but a first step that would be useful would be to make sure http://wiki.debian.org/Ayatana/Packages is up-to-date. Currently it only has the packages which integrate into GNOME 2.X sessions, not all of the stuff required for Unity. We could probably also use a page that tracks/examines what patches to non-Ayatana packages that Ubuntu is carrying in order to build Unity. Great, because I tried to make some sort of deps check http://paste.debian.net/plain/105221 (long time ago) wasn't aware there was http://wiki.debian.org/Ayatana/Packages which is great because I was thinking of re-packaging indicator-* stuff first and I'll make sure I update the list. I'll redo the whole process, and will report back on the results on what happens. Also, it should be noted that Unity is currently implemented as a plugin to the Compiz 0.9.x branch. Which is only in experimental, so uploads need to be targeted there. I agree, all uploads should be in experimental. Adnan On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio a.star...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Jon Dowland wrote: Has there been any progress on this ITP? Not that I know. You're welcome to help, Adnan is doing lots of other stuff already and pkg-ayatana is largely understaffed in general. Thank you Raphael for this very thoughtful observation, as it is absolutely true. I kind of paused this whole process at the moment, was even thinking of adding RFH tag to this ITP if that's even possible. Implementation of Unity into Debian requires immense amount of work to be done, and I'm not even sure it can be done by one person. Before I paused this process, huge deal of packages were missing in Debian, even in case they were present in Debian they required patching. Of course, these packages could be repackaged directly from Ubuntu as they are already patched and working nicely in Ubuntu. Before resuming this process I believe we need to figure out which way to go. I assume it's patching current Debian packages. As Raphael already said, I'm doing bunch of other stuff, so help would be highly appreciated. If I could get extra pair of hands and where we would divide duties among ourselves I believe this whole process could be finished relatively fast. We should probably have a larger discussion on pkg-ayatana-devel about goals/plans for the group in Wheezy, but a first step that would be useful would be to make sure http://wiki.debian.org/Ayatana/Packages is up-to-date. Currently it only has the packages which integrate into GNOME 2.X sessions, not all of the stuff required for Unity. We could probably also use a page that tracks/examines what patches to non-Ayatana packages that Ubuntu is carrying in order to build Unity. Also, it should be noted that Unity is currently implemented as a plugin to the Compiz 0.9.x branch. Which is only in experimental, so uploads need to be targeted there. - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: progress on Unity?
Hello, Has there been any progress on this ITP? I was surprised to see that unity was missing from http://wiki.debian.org/Ayatana/Packages, and there's essentially no discussion on pkg-ayatana-devel at all... -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: [Pkg-ayatana-devel] progress on Unity?
Hello Jon, On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Jon Dowland wrote: Has there been any progress on this ITP? Not that I know. You're welcome to help, Adnan is doing lots of other stuff already and pkg-ayatana is largely understaffed in general. (I encouraged its creation but I can't take a leading role) Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: ITP: Unity -- Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition
Raphael, thank you, I have just registered for ayatana team. Also regarding this ITP I would like to change couple of fields which are: Upstream Author: Unity Team ayatana-...@lists.launchpad.net Description: A desktop experience designed for efficiency of space and interaction Unity is a desktop experience which is designed for efficiency of space and interaction, in perfect combination of familiarity and the future. It embraces the values of GNOME: simplicity, style, usability and accessibility, as well as on professional level, considereding design thinking. It is designed by Canonical and Ayatana community and it consists of a Compiz based plugin, which is heavily dependent on OpenGL. Adnan On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Sat, 08 Jan 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org * Package name : Unity Version : 3.2.8 Upstream Author : Ubuntu Core Developers ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com * URL : https://launchpad.net/unity * License : (GPL3) Programming Lang: (C, C++, vala) Description : Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition Unity is a graphical interface designed for Ubuntu Desktop Edition I suggest you join the pkg-ayatana team and maintain unity there: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/pkg-ayatana Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: ITP: Unity -- Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition
Hi, On Sat, 08 Jan 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org * Package name: Unity Version : 3.2.8 Upstream Author : Ubuntu Core Developers ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com * URL : https://launchpad.net/unity * License : (GPL3) Programming Lang: (C, C++, vala) Description : Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition Unity is a graphical interface designed for Ubuntu Desktop Edition I suggest you join the pkg-ayatana team and maintain unity there: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/pkg-ayatana Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer Follow my Debian News ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.com (English) ▶ http://RaphaelHertzog.fr (Français) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#609278: ITP: Unity -- Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org * Package name: Unity Version : 3.2.8 Upstream Author : Ubuntu Core Developers ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com * URL : https://launchpad.net/unity * License : (GPL3) Programming Lang: (C, C++, vala) Description : Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition Unity is a graphical interface designed for Ubuntu Desktop Edition -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
